Article Comments - 2009 Lincoln MKS First Drive / Full Test

154 messages, Last post on Nov 17, 2008 at 2:21 PM

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First Drive: 2009 Lincoln MKS - First Impressions: The world's most completely equipped Taurus/Taurus X/Sable/Volvo/Flex, which turns out to be not such a bad thing. (more)

Full Test: 2009 Lincoln MKS AWD - Bottom Line: A luxury sedan for the Ford faithful, but all others would be advised to look elsewhere as there are far better luxury sedans for the price. (more)

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#56 of 154 Re: Mindless drivel [displacedtexan] by pmerk28 Aug 01, 2008 (6:13 pm)
Replying to: displacedtexan (Jun 18, 2008 8:40 am) Just took a look at one today. Gorgeous interior, huge rims. I like the grill. I don't care that is says "Lincoln" and not "Lexus" even though I live on Long Island where domestic passenger cars are a dead item. I couldn't test drive it because of time but I will soon.
#57 of 154 Lincoln vs. Lexus by nvbanker Aug 02, 2008 (9:09 pm)
I agree with your lament. Its a nice ES 350 and pretty comparable but for the name. Lincoln has lost a lot of cache the past few years that may never return.
#58 of 154 Re: Only a fool would buy this! [speculator] by pmerk28 Aug 27, 2008 (8:52 pm)
Replying to: speculator (Jun 11, 2008 2:09 pm) The avg Towncar owner is 72. Could've fooled me I thought it was about 85. Anyway Lincoln expects the avg age of an MKS buyer to be 45.
#59 of 154 Full Test available! by KarenS HOST Aug 28, 2008 (11:02 am)
Full Test: 2009 Lincoln MKS AWD Replies to this message: nvbanker (Aug 29, 2008 2:08 pm) akirby (Aug 29, 2008 4:15 pm)
#60 of 154 Edmunds review by cowbell Aug 28, 2008 (6:14 am)
Let me start by asking the moderator to not move this to a new discussion. It is much easier to just check the one forum, and I'm sure most people here would be interested in discussing the article. Inside line is not a fan. In fact, I think it's the harshest review of the MKS I've read. Now I haven't driven one, but can someone who has comment on the following from the inside line review: "It's slow, crude and questionably built. It's even a little awkward to look at. Forty-six grand? For what? The engine sounds like it was built by preschoolers...in Slovenia." Replies to this message: datagen (Aug 28, 2008 6:45 am) gregg_vw (Aug 28, 2008 7:00 am) datagen (Aug 28, 2008 12:02 pm) gregg_vw (Aug 28, 2008 6:46 am) akirby (Aug 28, 2008 6:51 am) gregg_vw (Aug 28, 2008 7:05 am) and 14 more... docrw (Aug 28, 2008 7:19 am) akirby (Aug 28, 2008 6:47 am)
#61 of 154 Re: Edmunds review [cowbell] by datagen Aug 28, 2008 (6:45 am)
Replying to: cowbell (Aug 28, 2008 6:14 am) Cowbell, I have sat, rode, driven and even ordered one and the only major complaint I have is that it is not here yet. I was at the Detroit auto show and got my first taste of it without the sales pitch from the display folks. I was impressed then and still am now. I remember my first impression on the styling inside and out saying "These guys were on the good dope when they designed this." Yes there are a few points of concern but none of them were deal busters. One of the major complaints I had heard and notice was the trunk opening. Yes it is smaller, but I could still could get a couple of duffle bags in it. The trunk is so huge; the Sopranos could have used this car. If there was a car out there that satisfied me totally with no issues what so ever, I probably could not afford it. But I will say this MKS is damm close. I plan on providing a detail report on it to all who are interested once I have mine in my hands. The one I ordered had just about everything you could put on it, which is taking the time. The 20 inch rims are not available yet. I thought Inside Line was on the cheap stuff myself on their eval. I have looked at all the others, but I think the MKS was a great knock out of the park to start. I see more home runs coming with the 2009 MKZ, and the 2009 MKT as well. Replies to this message: gregg_vw (Aug 28, 2008 7:00 am) datagen (Aug 28, 2008 12:02 pm)
#62 of 154 Re: Edmunds review [cowbell] by gregg_vw Aug 28, 2008 (6:46 am)
Replying to: cowbell (Aug 28, 2008 6:14 am) That was the second opinion. The main article was pretty fair in its assessment. We all know the Lincoln is a slightly bigger, ES350. The second opinion, by the way, was not harsh either--until he considered the $46K price. I agree with him that is too high for this type of car and too high for Lincoln right now. They need to build market share. Of course, this is the same company that has been pricing that hoary old Town Car in the same range...and then selling it for more like $30K if that. Replies to this message: akirby (Aug 28, 2008 6:51 am) gregg_vw (Aug 28, 2008 7:05 am) akirby (Aug 28, 2008 7:16 am) and 13 more... docrw (Aug 28, 2008 7:19 am)
#63 of 154 Re: Edmunds review [cowbell] by akirby Aug 28, 2008 (6:47 am)
Replying to: cowbell (Aug 28, 2008 6:14 am) First, why is he comparing the MKS to much smaller cars? The ES350 is a Camry based midsized car. The MKS is a full size vehicle. When one reviewer's opinions are 180 degrees from every other reviewer's opinions you just have to chalk it up to bias or just a totally different personal preference.
#64 of 154 Re: Edmunds review [gregg_vw] by akirby Aug 28, 2008 (6:51 am)
Replying to: gregg_vw (Aug 28, 2008 6:46 am) Shouldn't it be compared with larger luxury vehicles with similar features like a MB E350 or a Lexus GS350? It may lose a bit in handling but luxury and feature wise I think it's very competitive and quite a bit underpriced - relatively speaking. Replies to this message: gregg_vw (Aug 28, 2008 7:05 am) akirby (Aug 28, 2008 7:16 am) gregg_vw (Aug 28, 2008 7:28 am) and 12 more... docrw (Aug 28, 2008 7:19 am)
#65 of 154 Re: Edmunds review [datagen] by gregg_vw Aug 28, 2008 (7:00 am)
Replying to: datagen (Aug 28, 2008 6:45 am) I think the MKS was a great knock out of the park to start. I see more home runs coming with the 2009 MKZ, and the 2009 MKT as well. I hope you are right, but I don't see it. The MKS is not tearing up the sales charts, the MKZ is still too close to a Fusion to justify its price, and the MKT concept that was so bold has been lengthened and dumbed down into a big station wagon thing. Furthermore, Lincoln may be moving toward a more unified grill theme, but the MKS doesn't say Lincoln otherwise. Nor does the MKZ. Ford has a long history now of planning to make its brands instantly recognizable. However, they change the styling themes so often that all they end up with is a hodgepodge. Now the three bar grill is being phased out for Fords, even though it was never rolled out across the board. You can go back decades, and a plebeian brand like Pontiac's grill is always recognizable. Replies to this message: datagen (Aug 28, 2008 12:02 pm)