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Article Comments - 2009 Lincoln MKS First Drive / Full Test

154 messages,  Last post on Nov 17, 2008 at 2:21 PM

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What is this discussion about? Lincoln MKS, Sedan

First Drive: 2009 Lincoln MKS - First Impressions: The world's most completely equipped Taurus/Taurus X/Sable/Volvo/Flex, which turns out to be not such a bad thing. (more)
 
Full Test: 2009 Lincoln MKS AWD - Bottom Line: A luxury sedan for the Ford faithful, but all others would be advised to look elsewhere as there are far better luxury sedans for the price. (more)


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Re: Mindless drivel [speculator] by displacedtexan
Jun 15, 2008 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: speculator (Jun 13, 2008 5:23 am)

speculator, have you actually driven the car, and for how long and under what conditions? I only ask b/c a salesman at my local Lincoln dealership said they had an MKS, briefly, for the sales force to look over, but it soon went back to Dallas. The salesman said they've been told it'll probably be August before they start arriving in showrooms here in OKC.
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Re: Mindless drivel [speculator] by nvbanker
Jun 16, 2008 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: speculator (Jun 13, 2008 5:23 am)

In Europe, Volvo is not considered to be a premium mark. Volvo was never considered to be a premium vehicle in the USA until Ford marketeers said it is.
 
Same with Mercedes - big deal. The S-80 IS a luxury car, I had one, and though not particularly dependable, it was damn nice and in its own way, nicer than the Lexus I own now.
 
I'm driving an LS 430 now, and seriously considering this Lincoln - so evidently SOME people are cross shopping it with other true Luxury Marks. I am the first to admit Lincoln has lost its way, and been cheapened horribly, but this car smells like a comeback to me. I'm going to check it out.
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Re: Mindless drivel [displacedtexan] by speculator
Jun 16, 2008 (4:37 pm)
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Replying to: displacedtexan (Jun 15, 2008 2:45 pm)

I own a Lincoln -Mercury dealership. I have a few as DEMOS. I have driven the vehicle. Edmunds got their vehicle from a dealer who has a few as demos. The car was put through its paces on an obstacle course,
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Re: Mindless drivel [nvbanker] by speculator
Jun 16, 2008 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jun 16, 2008 10:33 am)

Am I to understand that Mercedes was never considered to be a premium make? Well, what about the 300 SLGullwing? The 1935 540k . It was the first car with irs. It cost as much as a Dusenberg. How about the 1967 250 SE and coupe and not to forget the convertible or cabriolet version Don't forget about the 600 pullman. Or the 450 series from the 70's especially the 450 SEL 6.9.
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Actual test drive by bfarrell
Jun 17, 2008 (7:25 am)
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Yes, I actually had a chance to drive this new Lincoln last thursday. Put about 20 miles on a factory supplied vehicle. For the price point of under $50k fully (fully)loaded this vehicle is a winner. Driving dynamics impeccable, acceleration very acceptable and smooth (it is not a sports sedan), trans allows standard auto ... sport mode auto ... and manual shifts, quiet to the max, good vision, great seating both in terms of positioning and comfort, very nice interior, hugh back seat that is heated standard, enough technology to almost be overkill, only negative is an abysmally small trunk opening with a high lift over although the trunk itself is huge.
The vehicle is extremly handsome in person and is not a clone of every other lux model on the market ... you will know it is a Lincoln. All in all a great effort by the Lincoln team that should do well if those who feel they must own a $70k import can get over the undeserved Lincoln image.
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Re: Actual test drive [bfarrell] by speculator
Jun 17, 2008 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: bfarrell (Jun 17, 2008 7:25 am)

Did You put it on an obstacle course as I have? If you had, you would have discovered the cars short comings.
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Obstacle course by bfarrell
Jun 17, 2008 (11:50 am)
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Yea, I think Lincoln should have made sure the MKS could win the 24hrs of LeMans .... NOT !!! This vehicle is not intended to be a "sport " sedan nor is it. What it does well is handle freeway cruising and city traffic very very competently with out beating the driver to a pulp. You know the way 99% of non midlife crisis Americans drive. If you want to send $ 60 - 70k for an automobile whose capabilities are unusable in normal driving so be it!
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Re: Mindless drivel [speculator] by displacedtexan
Jun 18, 2008 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: speculator (Jun 16, 2008 4:37 pm)

Thank you. I wish my closest dealership had had the opportunity like you did.
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ironic??? by bfo
Jul 30, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Isn't ironic that when the 08 Honda Accord came out, there were many people screaming that the design was stole from different cars. However the design on the MKS as not be talked about. There as only been great things. I can not help but laugh at the unfairness of everyone about things that are not American.
 I am saying this because the tail light of the Lincoln reminded me of the 2005 Hyundai XG350.
I am sure no one will publish this.
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Re: ironic??? [bfo] by cowbell
Jul 31, 2008 (4:14 am)
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Replying to: bfo (Jul 30, 2008 10:30 am)

Maybe you weren't looking in the right places, because I've seen tons of critisism of the MKS design. Check out the February or January issue of Automobile magazine where the first editorial is a two page trashing of every design feature of the MKS, both inside and out.
 
Some "looks like"s I've read on line:
90s GM car
a Saturn
1999 300M from the side
A G35 from the sides with longer overhangs
The Greenhouse from a Jag XF
A M35 from the outside
Maserati back end
 
Every car that comes out now days will be accompanied by countless people online saying "it looks alike a ..." or they "ripped off a ...." MKS has not been an exception.

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