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Toyota Corolla Paint Problems

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Re: [terceltom] by mjfpilot
Sep 30, 2008 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: terceltom (Sep 29, 2008 5:04 am)

Yes, I did...but it still looks like crp either way. Totally unacceptable. It is normal to get a little tar on the lower panels of your car on occasion. It is also normal to be able to remove the tar without leaving the car with a bad case of the brown measles.
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Re: [white3] by raynakay
Sep 30, 2008 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: white3 (Sep 30, 2008 8:46 am)

I didn't know there was a petition to sign. I would like to sign it. How do I find it?
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Re: Tar [white3] by terceltom
Sep 30, 2008 (8:27 pm)
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Replying to: white3 (Sep 30, 2008 8:52 am)

It IS his car!
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Re: [mjfpilot] by terceltom
Sep 30, 2008 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: mjfpilot (Sep 30, 2008 9:24 am)

"Goof-Off" has the main ingredients of Xylene and 2-Ethanol, both can damage auto paint. In fact if you read the warning on the can of "Goof-Off" it clearly states "CAN DAMAGE AUTO PAINTS". I don't think I would have trusted this on my new cars paint. Also, rubbing compounds that contain abrasives, as most do, warn that they can damage the clear coat that is applied on top of your cars regular paint job. As I stated in an earlier email I would be willing to bet that most of these paint problems that are being posted here are are mostly due to abuse or an environmental concern and not the fault of the Toyota paint.
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Re: [mjfpilot] by imidazol97
Oct 01, 2008 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: mjfpilot (Sep 26, 2008 2:58 pm)

>My white corolla is 3 months old and my daughter drove it on a recently paved road.
 
Contact the political division responsible for the paved road where you may have picked up the tar splatter. Do not remove the rest of the tar. If possible get a sample of the tar used on the road paving. If responsible, there may be insurance help available from the contractor involved or the political division's paving crew may have coverage for claims.
 
Start checking with local dealers or body shops in the area of the road paving to see if they've had other complaints.
 
The chemical may be something in the paving material that permeats the clearcoat which Toyota has chosen to use. It's sort of like having your kid spill a Kool Aid drink in the plastic bottles with red coloring on your living room or car carpet. The color permeats the nylon fiber and does not come out. That's especially bad if not treated quickly and allowed to dry. In that case quick treatment with glycerol type product to soak up as much color as possible is the cure. In your case using kerosene or bug & tar remover by Turtle Wax or other companies quickly might have prevented the permeation and discoloration. I realize that most of us assume that tar comes off next weekend when we get time to wash the car; in your case this may have allowed it to chemically change the paint layer. That's backed up by the body shop's wanting to strip damaged paint and repaint.
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Re: [terceltom] by mjfpilot
Oct 01, 2008 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: terceltom (Sep 30, 2008 8:53 pm)

Terceltom wrote....
 
"Goof-Off" has the main ingredients of Xylene and 2-Ethanol, both can damage auto paint. In fact if you read the warning on the can of "Goof-Off" it clearly states "CAN DAMAGE AUTO PAINTS". I don't think I would have trusted this on my new cars paint. Also, rubbing compounds that contain abrasives, as most do, warn that they can damage the clear coat that is applied on top of your cars regular paint job. As I stated in an earlier email I would be willing to bet that most of these paint problems that are being posted here are are mostly due to abuse or an environmental concern and not the fault of the Toyota paint.
     
Terceltom,
I know you believe Toyota can do no wrong and all of us owners are at fault. Needless to say, I think you're full of "fill in the blank". I tried goof off on a small portion, also gasoline,bug and tar remover,even scraped off a small piece with my fingernail,then soap and water. All with the same result. I also did this the very next day it happened, so it didn't have much time to set. The car is 3 months old so we keep it clean. I took it to the Toyota dealership and they tried to take it off with the exact same result as I had.
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Re: [mjfpilot] by terceltom
Oct 01, 2008 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: mjfpilot (Oct 01, 2008 7:11 am)

Believe me, I feel for you, but why is it Toyota's fault that your daughter accidently got tar on your new car and now you can't get it off ? I can see you using this forum as a tool to seek help with your problem to remove it, but it seems to me that many that have something unfortunate happen to their new Corolla paint come here to post looking for a scapegoat. I fully comprehend that the Toyota dealership could also not remove it, but again, does this make it their fault ? As an earlier reader posted, perhaps your automobile insurance company would be a good possibility to help with your problem. Do you have "comprehensive" coverage?
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Re: [terceltom] by mjfpilot
Oct 01, 2008 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: terceltom (Oct 01, 2008 7:45 am)

Terceltom,
 
Again by your posts you don't understand the problem. If you reread my posts you will find that the tar comes off quite easily. However, underneath all those little flecks of tar is a brown stain in the paint. It is not etched in. My contention is that everyone gets tar on their car occasionally because they drive on asphalt covered roads. I have owned over a dozen cars in my lifetime with 2 of them being white. All of them got tar from freshly paved roads on them, and all of them came clean without them looking like someone spit chewing tobacco on them. This leaves me to believe that Toyota's white paint is crp, and therefore, it is their fault.
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Re: [mjfpilot] by kenym
Oct 01, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: mjfpilot (Oct 01, 2008 10:24 am)

I tried goof off on a small portion, also gasoline,bug and tar remover,even scraped off a small piece with my fingernail,then soap and water. All with the same result.
 
Either goof off but especially gasoline would not only damage the clear coat covering but would also remove the paint. If you told the dealer you used these products on the car. I am sure that is why he said it will be on your dime to repaint the damaged area.
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Re: [kenym] by mjfpilot
Oct 01, 2008 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: kenym (Oct 01, 2008 11:48 am)

Does anybody even read what I write? I've tried multiple products on several SMALL spots and none of them have taken off the tar WITHOUT leaving little brown spots. I took the car into the dealer and the paint and body guy used HIS stuff and guess what? Brown Spots!!!! He then told me..." This must be "special" tar because "normal" tar would not have done this. Oh, and by the way, we don't cover this!" By the way Kenym, have you ever gotten a few drops of "GASOLINE" on your car when you filled it up? Paint on cars should be good enough to handle a little tar because we "drive" on asphalt and should be able to handle a few drops of gasoline because...why? We fill our tanks with...you guessed it...GASOLINE!!!

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