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Toyota Corolla, Sedan
#253 of 287 Re: Toyota Corolla Paint Problems [zlatina]
Oct 14, 2012 (8:45 am)
Okay so your having a paint problem, if you have a 2011 it's understandable that you would be upset. But I believe something like that should still be covered under your warranty. But on the other hand apparently your not a previous Toyota owner. If you had been you'd understand that a Toyota is one of the most reliable, most cost efficient, built to last many years and hundreds of thousands of miles and hold it's resale value more than any other vehicles (like Honda) around.
#254 of 287 Re: Toyota Corolla Paint Problems [terceltom]
Oct 14, 2012 (9:35 am)
In case you haven't noticed, Tom.. Over the several years you've been commenting on this thread, no one finds your responses helpful. Of course, I'm sure you intend to keep commenting over and over about how wonderful Toyotas are, while ignoring the fact that people have already tried your limited suggestions.
We're glad you've had a great experience and that you love Toyota sooooo much, but it's not constructive to the problem we have. YAY for you, you haven't had to deal with this frustrating experience.
Rest assured, we are taking our cars to the dealer, but as you may have been reading, many of them don't consider this covered under warranty OR in my case, I'm getting repetitive "touch-ups" that only repair the current damage and temporarily at that. So, I keep having to bring it back. Now to the point where they're tired of hearing from me and don't want to help any longer.
Since you keep rinse and repeating your responses for years now, please tell us how you're affiliated with Toyota.
#255 of 287 Re: Toyota Corolla Paint Problems [crystalpistol]
Oct 14, 2012 (4:01 pm)
Strange - our 2010 Corolla has been flawless, and Consumer Reports, True Delta, JD Powers all say Corolla is extremely reliable, fuel efficient, little or no issues.
Complaints - the interior scratches easily, & clock should be higher.
#256 of 287 Re: Toyota Corolla Paint Problems [mcdawgg]
Oct 17, 2012 (8:16 pm)
Why then did you get rid of your Toyota Corolla since it was perfect?
Depends on what you find so perfect about Toyota. Because of my not so positive experience with Toyota Corolla, I started looking at all Toyota cars that pass by me or at parking lots. What I notice is that only 2-3 year old Toyota cars have so many scratches and chips that no other make has! Why then Europeans do not buy Toyota cars? Europeans are very sensitive about the out-appearance of the car, they won't buy a car that scratches and chips from the wind!
And it is not only the paint that is problematic, mine had already so many parts replaced. And you are trying to persuade me that mine is the exception. Is it possible that mine was individually manufactured? Is it possible that they assembled all the defective parts in mine? No, it is ridiculous. I do not want to list here all the problems I had with the car so far because the topic is paint.
And one more thing: since you claim Toyota is so perfect, what about all the recalls then?
I thought Toyota has learnt the lesson after all the recalls but obviosly I was mislead and made the error to trust them and buy Toyota car. I am posting all this for the future buyers to read and make their right choice. It is up to them! I made mine for my next car make!
#257 of 287 Re: Toyota Corolla Paint Problems [zlatina]
Oct 18, 2012 (4:15 am)
We did not get rid of it - still have it, and will for at least another 8-10 years. Where did I say I got rid of it????
Recalls - that was mostly the accelerator thing, which the Toyota hate groups and the media wanted to be worse, but the fact is that if you did not use multiple floor mats and you used the clips as designed, you would have no problems. They had to make it more idiot-proof, which, yes, was a design fault. But the fact remains, even without the recall, if you used only one floor mat and used the clips, you would have NO problems. So this was not a huge problem, in my opinion. I am very concerned about safety, and watched this very carefully, but I was never concerned about my family's safety, because I used the clips and used only one mat.
We have zero paint problems. No scratches, a few stone chips in the bumper. I just waxed this car a week ago, so I know for sure. Take a look around the net - all makes' paint jobs have complaints. Understand that all manufacturers are using different paint due to EPA requirements. I have NOT noticed Toyotas having more scratches and chips than others. Your observation vs. mine.
European cars - much more reliablity problems than most cars, including Toyota, Honda, Ford, etc. Check Consumer Reports, True Delta, JD Power. Why do Europeans not buy Toyotas? They don't buy any? I will say that as a whole, they have different priorities (not reliability), and they also may purchase more cars built by their "home" countries.
I am not saying Toyota is perfect - no machine is. However, it is hard to debate Consumer Reports, JD Power, True Delta, etc. etc. If you have any real data sources to show that Toyota is not one of the most reliable brands, I'd love to see them.
Sorry about your luck, but one data point is not that meaningful. I listed my sources for my data that show Toyota as very reliable.
I am not interested in an attack, just stating some facts. And I am not employed in the auto industry, but I did buy Toyota stock at the height of the media blitz about the acceleration recalls. That was a real good move on my part!
I truly hope you get things resolved. Try a different dealer if yours is not helping you enough.
#258 of 287 Re: Toyota Corolla Paint Problems [crystalpistol]
Oct 18, 2012 (5:19 am)
Whoa, holster your "pistol" there "Crystal", of course I noticed that I'm posting, what kind of question is that ? Look we are all here are trying to help each other. Some of us have had great experiences with Toyota and a small minority of owners have had very bad experiences , but that shouldn't make you envious or jealous of other Toyota owners that are very happy with their cars. Accusations of them being a Toyota plant are just childish and paranoid. I love my Toyotas and have had great experiences with them, what's wrong with that? When you buy a lemon we just want to help you deal with that, but don't assume all Toyotas are bad . I certainly understand that all manufactureres, (even Toyota) will experience some kind of manufacturing error and will produce a few lemons now and then. Please don't feel obligated to read any of my posts, but others might want to.
#259 of 287 12 yr old corolla
Oct 18, 2012 (8:47 am)
I have a 01 and the paint looks like a 11 yr old car but no peeling anywhere. I am in the northeast so I get sun, rain, snow, salt..... and I never waxed my car, just go through auto car wash during winter to get the salt and crud off. I also have a 05 ody and the paint look just fine, with the regular dings from the highway, but again no peel.
here's one simple thing you can do: collect some rain water from where you live and throw a litmus paper in it to check the acidity level.
do people power wash their cars?
#260 of 287 Re: 12 yr old corolla [nwng]
Oct 18, 2012 (9:19 am)
One of my Corollas is a "01" black mica LE. I just waxed it yesterday and I must say it looks very, very good for an eleven year old car. It actually has that showroom gloss yet. All I do is apply "Nu-Finish" once per year and they actually bead up for most of the year. I must admit this "01" has been garage kept for nine of those eleven years;this means a lot when trying to keep a car looking like new.
#261 of 287 Re: 12 yr old corolla [nwng]
Oct 18, 2012 (1:25 pm)
Any rust on your 01 Corolla?
#262 of 287 Re: Toyota Corolla Paint Problems [mcdawgg]
Oct 21, 2012 (8:01 pm)
It is my experience and observations that I trust most. Recently I stop at different dealerships because I am really thinking of trading in my Toyota for another make. What I can see is many 2010 and 2011 Toyota Corollas that have already been traded in for other makes. Out of curiosity, I look at these cars and what I notice is tons of more chips and scratches than on mine! Today as I washed mine and while vacuum cleaning it next to me there was another Corolla 2011, but white. I was scared how the white looks like with all the scratches and chips that leave black marks. Mine looks much better but this does not make me happy with Toyota. At the detail shop which I use for waxing the car they say mine looks as if just purchased but I still know of all the imperfections on the car (bubbles, dust trapped in the paint, etc.)!
Obviously, it depends on what your idea of quality is. You admit that your has chips, correct? Why will you get chips since the quality is so high? I am not jealous of your cars. I am happy about you. Just I know for myself that Toyota does not meet my quality expectations. My idea of quality is different. For me 1-2-3 year old car should not have chips.
About the European market, which you can verify yourself, Ford is second in sales. Since Ford can please the picky Europeans with the "out-appearance" and reliability of their cars, obviously will be able to please my taste as well and will be my next choice!