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Toyota Prius, Volkswagen Golf, Diesel, Hybrid Cars, Hatchback, Sedan
#83 of 791 Re: Pricing [gagrice]
Aug 23, 2009 (7:21 am)
In the past at least, some rental companies including Hertz have/had Priuses in their fleet. If they have 2010s that would be a good way to get a complete driving experience with one. I'll probably do that when it gets closer to buy-time. But I know a Master Salesrep for a local Toyota dealership who I am sure will let me take one out for a long drive if I ask. He sold me a 2004 Prius, but Toyota couldn't deliver it when promised so I had to get something else (my Elantra hatch, which my son drives now).
#84 of 791 Prius vs Jetta or Golf
Aug 25, 2009 (7:33 am)
when you look at handling and driving performance there is NO comparison between the Prius and the Jetta/Golf. VW will always win. Interior is better and they are designed better with more cargo space. VW cars aren't ugly like the Prius, in fact the interior and exterior design of VW cars is fantastic. check this out, Edmunds prefers the VW over the Prius: http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q_how_to/a5/2010golfTDI_buyerschecklist.htm . Also, diesel cars tend to last longer...the engines can easily go 500K miles. no question in my mind which is the winner. Nevermind the fact that the Prius is extremely uncomfortable, I can't imagine taking road trips in one.
#85 of 791 Re: Prius vs Jetta or Golf [marlyece]
Aug 25, 2009 (8:15 am)
Have you taken a 2010 Prius on a road trip?
As for ugly... that is totally subjective of course. I like the looks of the Golf and the Prius. To me, the 2010 Prius looks like it's moving even when standing still. It's a totally different look than the more conservative Golf, but I appreciate both of them.
The cargo volume of the Prius is 22 cubic feet with the rear seat up. What is the cargo volume of the 2010 Golf?
#86 of 791 cargo space prius
Aug 25, 2009 (8:55 am)
My brother loves his Prius BUT he is not a car guy. A car that sounds virtually silent to me is not natural. I like a car that grabs the road and accelerates with little effort. I was mistaken on the cargo space as I think the Golf only has about 15 cubic feet with the seat up, but it increases to about 47 with the rear seat down. kudos to toyota for that. my bad drawing that comparison, but the Golf feels much roomier and spacious to me for some reason. for the long haul and highway driving the Golf will beat the Prius in mpg. I just think the Prius is little fun to drive. for me, anyway. others will love the silence, i'm sure my mother would. Also, the veedubs hold their value and depreciate far less. take a look at the KBB pricing and then try to find someone selling the same car for less than twice that KBB suggests. this is the reason i'm buying a 2010 TDI Golf instead of a used one.
#87 of 791 Re: cargo space prius [marlyece]
Aug 25, 2009 (9:48 am)
That's interesting. Others posting here have stated the Prius is noisier than the Golf TDI.
The TDI has gobs of torque, but then so does the Prius, especially when accelerating from stop. Overall power wise they are pretty similar also, with the TDI having a slight advantage there. Neither is a racer, but will get you where you need to go with no problem.
The TDI may seem more spacious to you because it has a taller roof.
Based on the numbers I've seen, I am not so certain the TDI will beat the Prius in highway mpg, but I'm pretty sure the Prius will top the TDI there in around-town driving.
In case you haven't noticed, Priuses hold their value well also. I think that will be more the case as gas prices climb, as they will as we dig out of this recession.
#88 of 791 it's a draw
Aug 25, 2009 (9:58 am)
really i think toyota offers unparalleled reliability so i don't think you can go wrong with a prius. as far as the fun factor i don't think there is any comparison. both are great cars with amazing amenities. just depends on what the buyer is looking for. i could see gas prices climbing in the near future. supposedly as more people opt for diesel models, the price of diesel should decrease. we'll see how that goes. it's really a crapshoot at best.
#89 of 791 Re: cargo space prius [backy]
Aug 25, 2009 (10:24 am)
I should qualify my noise statement on the Prius. It is when it goes from EV only to engine on there is a shuddering noise that I find unpleasant. Also a screaming engine noise under strong acceleration. What is more unpleasant is the rough ride on our city streets with potholes like a Baghdad war zone. My Passat with 17" wheels and tires was also somewhat rough riding compared to both our Lexus and Sequoia.
I would imagine the Golf set up with those lousy wide profile tires will ride rough. I am hoping they offer it with 15" or 16" at the most. The price of those replacement tires is also ridiculous.
I may never find a small car that I can tolerate. I do make allowances when they are fun to drive. Think Porsche. The Golf is many times referred to as a poor man's Porsche. Or can I sneak it into the garage easier than a new Porsche?
#90 of 791 can't be too poor!
Aug 25, 2009 (10:37 am)
well mine is going to cost me around $25K. i don't really consider that poor when the Audi A3 starts around $27K
#91 of 791 Re: can't be too poor! [marlyece]
Aug 25, 2009 (11:16 am)
Poor being a relative term. You would not get much of a Prius today for $25k. They are topping out locally for over $33k. Maybe now that the clunker program has gone away the prices will get back to normal.
I would want the Golf TDI with DSG no NAV, Monsoon or Moonroof. The same cloth seats that come in the GTI and 16" wheels and tires. I would probably be willing to part with about $22k for such a vehicle. Maybe a bit more if I really like driving it.
If I wanted a blue tooth, I would go to the dentist.
#92 of 791 Re: Pricing [wvgasguy]
Aug 26, 2009 (11:16 am)
The new Toyotas that come with the EJ extra ( the JBL sound system ) also have XM/Sirius already installed and operable with a 90 day trial. This option also includes Bluetooth, the 6 CD changer and more speakers. Soon it will also include a USB port in addition to the AUX input.
In the Prius this begins to be standard equipment with the Prius III ( 1225 ). The Prius II ( 1223 ) has no options and nothing can be added except a few accessories.