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#160 of 791 How much longer will the Prius be sold in the USA?
Sep 06, 2009 (11:39 am)
Better get em while they are still legal in the USA.
Toyota Hybrids Blocked From U.S. Due to Patent Issues?
Toyota faces patent infringement claims from a company called Paice LLC. Paice filed an official complaint with the U.S. International Trade Commission on Thursday in Washington, D.C. The fling, not immediately available for public viewing, claims that Toyota has infringed upon several of the patents awarded to Paice in regards to drive trains for hybrid vehicles. Paice's filing seeks a complete ban on several Toyota models from out market including the Prius, Highlander Hybrid, Camry Hybrid, and several Lexus hybrid models.
The VW TDIs may soon pass Toyota hybrid sales. VW sold same percentage Jetta models as the Prius in the Cash 4 Clunkers program. We have to assume most were diesel as they have the best mileage advantage for trades with 18 MPG clunkers
#161 of 791 Re: How much longer will the Prius be sold in the USA? [gagrice]
Sep 06, 2009 (11:55 am)
That's an unlikely outcome. Hybrids mean too much to Toyota to have them blocked from the U.S. It's more likely Toyota would settle out of court with Paice if Toyota thinks there's a good chance Paice will prevail in the suit.
#162 of 791 Re: How much longer will the Prius be sold in the USA? [backy]
Sep 06, 2009 (12:09 pm)
I thought Toyota settled that long time ago. Seems like they are just trying to outlast them. Typical big corporate tactic. Hire more lawyers and hope the other guy runs out of money. Toyota is losing money right now from overbuilding in the US. How much will they spend to keep a marginal product on the market? I doubt they make as much on a Prius built in Japan as a Camry built here.
#163 of 791 Re: How much longer will the Prius be sold in the USA? [gagrice]
Sep 06, 2009 (1:52 pm)
OMG... this news is older than Jesus. Do you actually think Toyota is going to lose a case like this. You have to be really naive to think that. LOL Toyota will just buy the company with their massive cash reserves. If I'm not mistaken the law firm representing the company is a real scheister firm. They sue anything and see what sticks. As far as TDI's outselling Prius. Not in your wildest dreams. Maybe in Germany, Not here in the good ol USA. Americans don't and will not buy diesels in any numbers significant. Guess thats why VW shelved their dumb commercial. It wasn't working LOL!!!
#164 of 791 Another Reason for the Prius over the TDI
Sep 06, 2009 (1:58 pm)
NY has this new idling law that they enacted (other states must have something similar too). You can get a very steep fine if you idle more than 3 minutes time. Now as you all know, the Prius is silent at idle (engine is off) and if you happen to be waiting for someone curbside or on any public street for that matter, you will be ticketed if you idle more than three minutes. That means that I can remain cool in the summer and warm in the winter if I happen to waiting for passengers. If I had a TDI (or any normal gasser for that matter) I would be forced to shutdown. Even if the Prius battery runs low, the engine will kick on but for LESS than three minutes to recharge the battery a bit. Gotta love that technology!!! LOL
#165 of 791 Re: Another Reason for the Prius over the TDI [jpeters1970]
Sep 06, 2009 (2:05 pm)
...other states must have something similar too...
I know my state doesn't. But somehow I'm not surprised NY does.
#166 of 791 Re: Another Reason for the Prius over the TDI [backy]
Sep 06, 2009 (7:26 pm)
We're also the king of red light cameras and 10% ethanol gas, $11 bridge tolls. Okay, I'm getting sick. Only reason I've stayed is the MONEY.
Sep 07, 2009 (4:23 am)
Toyota builds some awesome diesel engines that are not imported inside US.This is a funny thread as toyota probabily sells 10,000 diesel in europe and asia for every pirus here.Cannot wait from them to be imported here.
#168 of 791 Re: toyota Diesel [banditboy]
Sep 07, 2009 (12:29 pm)
Unfortunately they won't because market research shows that it would not sell here. I am kinda surprised that they wouldn't even take a chance, but I guess it would erode their hybrids sales if it was successful. I own an old Mercedes diesel (mid 80's) and a 2005 Prius. The Merc just won't die but I haven't the heart to retire it.
Sep 08, 2009 (5:46 am)
Prius= great city and hwy mileage, low poluter, "green" supporter, odd handling and looks, very reliable, expensive battery replacement cost and mostly unknown used car value after said battery dies
Golf tdi = great hwy mileage and impressive torque, good city mpg, fun to drive on a daily basis, decent looking, not the best reliability track record, high resale value
There is my on topic comparison. Merely my opinion. Sorry for offending prius owners earlier.