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Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Prius, Volkswagen Golf, Diesel, Hybrid Cars, Hatchback, Sedan


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Re: cargo space prius [john1701a] by gagrice
Aug 29, 2009 (8:47 pm)
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Replying to: john1701a (Aug 29, 2009 5:41 pm)

I did not change the subject Toyota Prius Stalling is the issue. They are not all listed under one complaint topic or one MY.
 
CNN reported, "A software problem is causing some Toyota Prius gas-electric hybrid cars to stall or shut down while driving at highway speeds." A Toyota press release states:
 
Approximately 75,000 2004 and 2005 model year Prius vehicles may be affected by this condition.

 
You are the one wanting to change the subject. No one is saying any car is perfect. The previous poster made a bold claim concerning VW DSG and bullet proof Prius. Nothing was substantiated. Just an opinion. Same as you have done. I probably test drove the first Prius before any of the current crop of hybrid zealots. I know it was one of the first two in San Diego. I thought it was kind of cool until I really looked into it. After a couple electric only starts from a stop light and the newness wears off and the reality sets in. It is simply NOT a drivers car. It is mediocre transportation.
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I Own Both by carbuffde
Aug 30, 2009 (8:13 am)
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I have a history with both vehicles. Owned a 99 VW Bug Diesel. Loved it until electrical gremlins started popping up (sold it in two years due to the problems). Got great fuel mileage (high 30's mixed). Now I currently have a 2005 Prius and and a 2007 Jetta TDI. Jetta was for me and Prius for the wife. The Jetta has been relatively trouble free but this will be the last VW for me (dealer service stinks). We switched and now I drive the Prius and the wife drives the Jetta. My commute is further and since I get better mileage we decided to switch. Both are decent vehicles but my Prius has been trouble free. Never had such a more reliable vehicle.
 
I see passion for both of these cars and I kinda have to laugh at the juvenile banter back and forth between these forum participants. Its only a damn car. Get over it!!
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Re: cargo space prius [gagrice] by john1701a
Aug 30, 2009 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 29, 2009 8:47 pm)

> Some causing injury accidents.
 
Of the extremely small number that actually stalled, where's there a report to support that?
 
Remember, when the engine cuts out, you still have a 50kW electric motor providing propulsion and a battery-pack powering everything. So, it's not like driving cannot continue.
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Re: cargo space prius [john1701a] by jpeters1970
Aug 30, 2009 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: john1701a (Aug 30, 2009 9:14 am)

Have to agree with you on that John. Bringing up old history from six years ago show how desperate these diesel addicts are. Actually, diesel would be nice if they would design one to work like a hybrid. I just don't know how the start/stop cycle would work as diesels work quite differently than the Atkinson cycle gassers. So now I'll just glide along in my reliable space pod, listen to XM and enjoy the sound of silence at the stop lights during my commute. Much better than shake, rattle and ....um never mind,,, y'all get what I'm talking about. NVH.
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Re: I Own Both [carbuffde] by gagrice
Aug 30, 2009 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: carbuffde (Aug 30, 2009 8:13 am)

I see passion for both of these cars and I kinda have to laugh at the juvenile banter back and forth between these forum participants. Its only a damn car. Get over it!!
 
Welcome to the forum. Your insight is most appreciated. Poor dealer service is a big turn-off. Here in San Diego we have 11 Toyota dealers. I have only dealt with two on the service level. Both were incompetent. By contrast Drew Ford/VW has been great to deal with for both Ford and VW since the first car I bought from them in 1986. I have had them service both Ford and the VW Passat TDI and they proved most competent and reasonably priced. So my experience with Toyota and Lexus dealers has been just the opposite of yours.
 
The diesel vs hybrid rivalry has existed here at Edmund's since about 2003. My question to you is what type driving do you do? Are there any mountains in your commutes? Or winding roads with a lot of up and down hills? If you take a Sunday drive out in the country, which would be your choice to drive?
 
If I based my vehicle purchases on the dealers here in San Diego, I would never buy another Toyota or Lexus.
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WORLD Car of the Year by gagrice
Aug 31, 2009 (11:42 am)
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Just so those here know what the World thinks of the New Golf. It was awarded THE car of the year award. You can look through the archives. I don't think you will see the Prius even in the running. It requires a superior vehicle to be chosen for this prestigious award.
 
http://www.wcoty.com/media/?release=45&year=2009
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Re: WORLD Car of the Year [gagrice] by backy
Aug 31, 2009 (2:57 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 31, 2009 11:42 am)

Maybe for the 2010 award, the 2010 Prius will be in the running. This was the 2009 World COTY award. The Prius that was eligible for that award was a six-year-old model. I'm not surprised it wasn't considered. The Golf was a new design.
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Re: WORLD Car of the Year [backy] by gagrice
Aug 31, 2009 (4:31 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 31, 2009 2:57 pm)

You are right the Prius is in the running for 2010. If the Prius wins it will make for a good debate with the 2009 vs the 2010 car of the year titles.
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Re: WORLD Car of the Year [gagrice] by jpeters1970
Aug 31, 2009 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 31, 2009 11:42 am)

I believe that award was bestowed (or some type of award) back in 2004 to the Prius. For 2010 the Prius really evolved but didn't change too much. Just because an award was given to a car does not mean it is golden. Anyone remember the Renault Alliance? Need I say more? The Golf may be a fine automobile if you want to be very familiar with the service bay at your nearest dealer. Sales figures don't lie. The Prius is a hit whereas the Golf is just an also ran in the US market sought after by a very niche clientele.

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