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Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Prius, Volkswagen Golf, Diesel, Hybrid Cars, Hatchback, Sedan


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Prius prices increasing by moparbad
Sep 27, 2009 (2:45 pm)
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No Base Model Prius for consumers
 
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The Prius gets a $400 price increase, starting October 18. The base model of the popular hybrid will now be sold in limited quantities to fleet buyers only. The lowest-end Prius available to the general public will cost $23,150. The top model will be priced at $28,420. -end
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Re: Prius prices increasing [moparbad] by bwilson4web
Oct 03, 2009 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Sep 27, 2009 2:45 pm)

So the Prius sale ends Oct. 18 ... time to get one now.
 
Bob Wilson
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TDI parents? by kirstie_h HOST
Oct 14, 2009 (5:25 am)
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If you are a parent and drive a ’08-’10 Jetta TDI, please email predmunds.com to be interviewed.
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Diesel in New Engalnd by sellaturcica
Oct 14, 2009 (9:29 pm)
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It's almost winter in New England, just drove to Vermont from CT and diesel prices are running slightly higher than premium prices. There's about a 10-20% gap between RUG and diesel, for some reason the spread gets bigger the further north you go (maybe because of heating oil demand?).
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Re: Diesel in New Engalnd [sellaturcica] by backy
Oct 15, 2009 (5:10 am)
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Replying to: sellaturcica (Oct 14, 2009 9:29 pm)

Yes, I have seen that spread lately in MN also.
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Actually Driven Hybrids & 2010 Golf TDI by csus_grad
Nov 08, 2009 (10:35 pm)
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I have driven both the Honda Insight and the Toyota Prius for long distances from a company fleet. Both are good cars -- well finished and put together. They both suffer hybrid "problems" such lackluster acceleration, mushy brakes, and to achieve advertised MPG, the Econ mode has to be used which turns the A/C off while at most stop lights -- turning the A/C off at a stop light when it's 102* in August here in Sacramento is not an option.
 
I drove the 2010 Golf TDI today and I will be purchasing one very soon. The fit and finish is excellent, loaded with premium features, it stops on a dime, the paddle shifters work wonders, it has almost as much torque as my 2007 Audi A4 3.2 (243 v. 236) and at 30/42 MPG!
 
If you actually love tearing up a back road the Golf TDI is an excellent alternative (opportunity?) to a hybrid.
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Re: Actually Driven Hybrids & 2010 Golf TDI [csus_grad] by john1701a
Nov 08, 2009 (11:34 pm)
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Replying to: csus_grad (Nov 08, 2009 10:35 pm)

ECO does not turn off the A/C in Prius, it only reduces it.
 
PWR is available in Prius and works well for situations like hard acceleration when making a left turn at an intersection from a dead stop.
 
As for the advertised MPG, you can easily exceed it by just driving normal in ECO mode. My 2010 average with 10,362 miles since the end of May is 52.5 MPG.
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Is Prius really that reliable? by schong
Nov 28, 2009 (8:08 pm)
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Many claim that Prius is more reliable than Jetta TDIs, to an extent where some say Prius is bulletproof. Well, just go to ODI website at
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ and search Prius problems. in the 2006 model has 676 problems reported, whereas 2006 VW Jetta TDI Model has counted around 80 problems. Assuming 40000 Jetta TDIs for 2006 were sold (103,331 VW Jettas in US, and TDIs were around 40% of Jetta sales) and Prius in 2006 sold 107000 units (according to wikipedia), which has more problems per capita? Prius. Prius has less problems in 2009 than VW TDI, but Prius in 2010 shows more problems than VW TDI, according to ODI.
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Re: Is Prius really that reliable? [schong] by gagrice
Nov 28, 2009 (8:16 pm)
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Replying to: schong (Nov 28, 2009 8:08 pm)

Welcome to the forum. Keep up the good research. We like facts around here. Not to mention the Jetta is safer and much better handling under all driving conditions. I would expect the new Golf TDI to be even better. The only problem with the Golf TDI is lack of units available to US. I am sure the dollar has killed the incentive to bring many to our shores. The EU gets all the good stuff and the US gets the dregs.
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advantage TDI: stops when u brake, shift to neutral, or turn off ignition by elias
Nov 30, 2009 (6:57 am)
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possibly it can be considered an advantage for tdi in that the vehicle actually slows/stops 100% of the time when you hit the brake, shift to neutral, or turn off key.
Apparently Toyota Prius is incapable/unreliable with those simple functions, as reported by Toyota and the 2000 who reported/confirmed the issues to NHTSA and 200 dead/injured toyota customers due to the egregious design flaw.

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