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#508 of 517 Re: wow [gagrice] by backy Sep 26, 2009 (9:01 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 26, 2009 7:56 am) How big is the traction battery on the Golf TDI, and what is its tax credit? In other words... why is this an issue?   A lot of trips in our household are less than 12 miles roundtrip, at city speeds (much less than 60 mph), so that will compute to, what kind of mpg do you think? Pretty high I'd say.
#509 of 517 Re: Golf prices [gagrice] by bwilson4web Sep 27, 2009 (4:59 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 25, 2009 7:39 am) "Golf 4-door TDI 2.0L 140 hp Six-speed automatic DSG® with Tiptronic® $ 23,889" 34 mpg EPA composite rating   Prius 4-door 1.8L 134 hp CVT automatic $22,000 - www.toyota.com 50 mpg EPA composite rating   Consumer Reports defined a $/mpg as a way to rate the cost for any given mileage. So this allows us to use the listed prices by both VW and Toyota along with the EPA mileage to calculate the $/mpg:   $23,889 / 34 mpg = $702.62 / MPG - Golf dollars per mpg $22,000 / 50 mpg = $440.00 / MPG - Prius dollars per mpg   Ok, what would be the price of an equivalent Prius using the Golf dollars per mpg:   $702.62 * 50 mpg = $35,131 - Prius priced at the same Golf dollars per mpg   So we have this range of Prius prices, $22,000 to $35,131, to compare the 4-door, automatic transmissions and similar displacement engines.   Bob Wilson Replies to this message: gagrice (Sep 27, 2009 5:41 am) bwilson4web (Sep 27, 2009 9:01 am) backy (Sep 27, 2009 9:06 am)
#510 of 517 Re: Golf prices [bwilson4web] by gagrice Sep 27, 2009 (5:41 am)
Replying to: bwilson4web (Sep 27, 2009 4:59 am) I am not sure where you live. In CA the average 2010 Prius is over $29k. The dealer with the largest inventory only had 3 Prius out of 14 under $29k. Making your calculation more like $580 per MPG. Again the Prius may be the mileage champ and have a bit more storage space than the Golf. When you look at the list I do the Prius still comes up short on what is most important to me. VW Golf ahead in the following list: Handling braking safety wind bucking ride ergonomics quality of materials   Not to mention the fact that Toyota uses insulation in the Prius wiring that seems to attract rats and mice. Another dirty little secret.   Rats love Prius wiring Replies to this message: bwilson4web (Sep 27, 2009 9:01 am) backy (Sep 27, 2009 9:06 am)
#511 of 517 Re: Golf prices [gagrice] by bwilson4web Sep 27, 2009 (9:01 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 27, 2009 5:41 am) "I am not sure where you live," doesn't matter as the car market place is larger than just the nearest car dealership. We both have access to the same manufacturer's list prices and another, nation wide, public market place, Ebay:   Price - Ebay item - vehicle $22,950 - 350251239669 - 2010 Prius $25,297 - 360191062085 - 2010 Jetta TDI   I bought our first Prius in 2005 through Ebay and flew to Fort Worth Texas to drive it back. A used, 2003 Prius, I got it for $1,000 under Kelly Blue Book value and added 70,000 miles at over 52 MPG.   When I bought my wife's new 2010 Prius, it was a special offer and I was able to select my dealership. I choose the highest ranked dealership in North Alabama even though it is 45 miles away and I have been pleased with their service.   Costco has a car buying service and it includes the Prius. This means we can actually shop ... we have options. Heck, even Edmunds, our host, has a car location service.   Bob Wilson
#512 of 517 Re: Golf prices [gagrice] by backy Sep 27, 2009 (9:06 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 27, 2009 5:41 am) The 2010 Prius is an IIHS Top Safety Pick. The 2010 Golf hasn't been tested by the IIHS yet, or at least the results were not announced. But the 2009 Jetta was a Top Safety Pick so it's likely the 2010 Golf will be also.   Have you driven the 2010 Golf and Prius back-to-back to compare the ride, wind bucking, ergonomics etc.? I haven't, so I haven't made any conclusions yet on how the two cars compare in those areas.   As for rats chewing wiring in a Prius... rats and mice chew wires, and lots of other stuff. That behavior is not restricted to the Prius. I suppose next you are going to try to make some link between the Prius and H1N1.   http://askville.amazon.com/mice-chew-electrical-wires/DiscussionBoard.do?request- Id=8003348&page=1
#513 of 517 Prius prices increasing by moparbad Sep 27, 2009 (2:45 pm)
No Base Model Prius for consumers   qutoe- The Prius gets a $400 price increase, starting October 18. The base model of the popular hybrid will now be sold in limited quantities to fleet buyers only. The lowest-end Prius available to the general public will cost $23,150. The top model will be priced at $28,420. -end Replies to this message: bwilson4web (Oct 03, 2009 8:37 am)
#514 of 517 Re: Prius prices increasing [moparbad] by bwilson4web Oct 03, 2009 (8:37 am)
Replying to: moparbad (Sep 27, 2009 2:45 pm) So the Prius sale ends Oct. 18 ... time to get one now.   Bob Wilson
#515 of 517 TDI parents? by kirstie_h HOST Oct 14, 2009 (5:25 am)
If you are a parent and drive a ’08-’10 Jetta TDI, please email predmunds.com to be interviewed.
#516 of 517 Diesel in New Engalnd by sellaturcica Oct 14, 2009 (9:29 pm)
It's almost winter in New England, just drove to Vermont from CT and diesel prices are running slightly higher than premium prices. There's about a 10-20% gap between RUG and diesel, for some reason the spread gets bigger the further north you go (maybe because of heating oil demand?). Replies to this message: backy (Oct 15, 2009 5:10 am)
#517 of 517 Re: Diesel in New Engalnd [sellaturcica] by backy Oct 15, 2009 (5:10 am)
Replying to: sellaturcica (Oct 14, 2009 9:29 pm) Yes, I have seen that spread lately in MN also.

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