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Why Tesla wanna go Hybrid when is already 100% electric?

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#16 of 22 Re: hybrid [wwest] by coldcranker Feb 04, 2009 (7:13 pm)
Replying to: wwest (Feb 04, 2009 3:37 pm) wwest, The only thing wrong with having an internal combustion engine to do nothing but charge the batteries is that energy produced by the engine itself is only about 30% efficient, and then the act of charging batteries is about 50% efficient, so you are left with 15% overall efficiency, very low. It is why the Chevy Volt engineers decided NOT to try and charge the batteries on board up very much (only enough to keep them at minimum charge). The Chevy Volt pretty much works like a diesel-electric freight train (very common for years) where the internal combustion engine simply turns a generator and the current from that flow mostly directly to the electric motor to turn the wheels. The battery only gets leftover power enough to maintain a minimal state of charge. Replies to this message: wwest (Feb 04, 2009 9:28 pm) coldcranker (Feb 05, 2009 12:14 pm) wwest (Feb 05, 2009 3:03 pm) and 2 more...
#17 of 22 Re: hybrid [coldcranker] by wwest Feb 04, 2009 (9:28 pm)
Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 04, 2009 7:13 pm) http://www.artemisip.com/appli_auto_transm.htm Replies to this message: coldcranker (Feb 05, 2009 12:14 pm) wwest (Feb 05, 2009 3:03 pm) coldcranker (Feb 05, 2009 8:28 pm) and 1 more...
#18 of 22 Tesla hybrid by toyolla2 Feb 05, 2009 (9:11 am)
-wwest -coldcranker look we are getting a bit off topic here with mechanical systems and the Volt There are the Advanced hybrids forum for normal cars and also the Volt forum, we should continue on those. The Tesla is on its own as a hybrid application due to the power required. It will definitely require a multicylinder engine if it is to run on oil, although for our personal transportation needs I feel that is exactly the type of engine that we should all be trying to get away from .  T2
#19 of 22 Re: hybrid [wwest] by coldcranker Feb 05, 2009 (12:14 pm)
Replying to: wwest (Feb 04, 2009 9:28 pm) Thanks for the link. TESLA SHOULD DO THAT! Hydraulic hybrids kick butt, man. Big trucks and whatever can benefit. If Tesla did this hybrid arrangement (forget battery crap!), they would have a rocket ship off the line. People should understand that hydraulic hybrid TORQUE is incredible, very high. Thats why Tesla, wanting to give us a satisfying sports car, should give us this accleeration kick.   That answers the purpose of this thread exactly. Thats why Tesla would want to "go hybrid". Replies to this message: wwest (Feb 05, 2009 3:03 pm) coldcranker (Feb 05, 2009 8:28 pm) coldcranker (Mar 14, 2009 8:55 am)
#20 of 22 Re: hybrid [coldcranker] by wwest Feb 05, 2009 (3:03 pm)
Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 05, 2009 12:14 pm) Very few of us in "this" market are looking to take off like a rocket ship. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Feb 05, 2009 8:28 pm) coldcranker (Mar 14, 2009 8:55 am)
#21 of 22 Re: hybrid [wwest] by coldcranker Feb 05, 2009 (8:28 pm)
Replying to: wwest (Feb 05, 2009 3:03 pm) wwest said "Very few of us in "this" market are looking to take off like a rocket ship."   Huh? This is a Tesla thread. You didn't know that a lot of the appeal of buying a Tesla is the amazing acceleration you are getting in a sports car? I think its something like 4 seconds 0 to 60 mph. Thats HUGE in this market. This ain't no Prius thread. The snail-lovers are over there. Prius takes 11 seconds to get to 60.   Any Tesla-going-to-hybrid has to keep that Tesla-wild acceleration intact, at least most of it.   When people pay their $100,000+ for a Tesla roadster, at least they get neck-snapping accleration, and Tesla is proud of that. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Mar 14, 2009 8:55 am)
#22 of 22 Re: hybrid [coldcranker] by coldcranker Mar 14, 2009 (8:55 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 05, 2009 8:28 pm) Here is another reason Tesla should go hybrid (the subject of this thread): Click Here for what Tesla should be building in a hybrid, as it gets Tesla-like accel for cheaper

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