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Re: 2008 Toyota Sieanna - "The Hesitation" [johnsienna] by wwest
May 22, 2008 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: johnsienna (May 21, 2008 10:35 pm)

Causative factors goes all the way back to '97, flawed transaxle design for the new RX300.
 
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Conspiracy Theory by ateixeira
May 22, 2008 (12:49 pm)
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Here is my conspiracy theory on this matter:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f169148/7
 
That's just my opinion, though.
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Re: 2008 Toyota Sieanna - "The Hesitation" [wwest] by johnsienna
May 26, 2008 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (May 22, 2008 8:29 am)

Is there any fix for this kind of problem?
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Re: 2008 Toyota Sieanna - "The Hesitation" [johnsienna] by wwest
May 27, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: johnsienna (May 26, 2008 6:47 pm)

Some of the Toyota and Lexus FWD & F/AWD '08 models have a new firmware feature that tries to judge the driver's intent by watching the rate at which the gas pedal is released. Fast and quick equals a wish to slow and therefore the transaxle will remain in a lower gear, slow and easy and it will upshift.
 
My guess is that if the '08 owner/driver's can learn to adapt to this new feature the firmware "fix" might be made backwards compatible.
 
The best answer is probably the one that Ford has chosen for the Edge, a variable displacement ATF pump, but that, most definitely, would not be backwards compatible.
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Re: 2008 Toyota Sieanna - "The Hesitation" [johnsienna] by lmo2
Jun 29, 2008 (5:02 pm)
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Replying to: johnsienna (May 21, 2008 10:35 pm)

I have a 2008 Sienna Limited, bought in march. After about a month the check engine light and VSC light came on, I went to toyota twice . they told me it was because the gas cap was not put on correctly. Then I was pulling into a parking space and the van jumped foward and smashed into a parking pole. I brought it in and they told me the axel was not secured and I had leaked out all my transmission fluid!! They fixed it, supposedly, but now I constantly feel that hesitation. I am so frustrated and after reading many of these notes I am scared to drive it. We have been on the phone with toyota for a week and they are ..."looking into it". Has anyone had their toyota replaced because of these issues?
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Re: 2008 Toyota Sieanna - "The Hesitation" [johnsienna] by arodory
Feb 20, 2009 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: johnsienna (May 21, 2008 10:35 pm)

I have a similar problem with the hesitation except I do not hear the engine race nothing happens during the hesitation delay...then it suddenly goes. They said the computer may need to be reset. Yours sounds like a transmission issue I have with my Honda. Did they resolve it yet?
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Hesitation by arodory
Feb 23, 2009 (9:37 am)
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Hesitation by arodory
Feb 20, 2009 (6:58 pm)
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My 05 Sienna hesitates usually when accelerating after coming out of a turn. Originally, they said the computer may need to be reset. Later, dealer said they did not find a problem but now it is getting worse. Any advice?
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Re: Hesitation [arodory] by ateixeira
Feb 23, 2009 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: arodory (Feb 20, 2009 6:58 pm)

Roll in to the throttle gradually. I think a large part of the delay is the trans hesitating before shifting down.
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Re: 2008 Toyota Sieanna - "The Hesitation" [arodory] by wwest
Feb 23, 2009 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: arodory (Feb 20, 2009 6:54 pm)

According to info at techinfo.toyota.com even the latest 2010 RX350 still has the 1-2 second "re-acceleration" downshift delay/hesitation. But the 2010 RX350 has new control firmware that attempts to alleviate the problem by watching the driver's actions on the gas pedal and thereby predicting, attempting to predict, the driver's next move/action.
 
Assume you are accelerating even ever so slightly and accoringly the transaxle is in a lower gear ratio that it would otherwise be at your current roadspeed.
 
If you now lift the throttle SLOWLY the system will predict that you wish to simply begin cruising along and the trnasaxle will shift into the highest gear appropreate to the current roadspeed.
 
On the other hand if you lift the gas pedal FAST/QUICKLY the assumption will be that you wish to slow, perhaps using a bit of engine compression braking, and the transaxle will be more likely to remain in the current "lower" gear ratio.
 
In this latter case, FAST/QUICK release of the gas pedal, and you NOW wish to quickly return to acceleration, there is no gear upshift pending, in process, nor having just completed. So the transaxle is fully "armed"/prepared for even a downshift if that is what is required for the level of acceleration your "new", re-acceleration, gas pedal position dictates.
 
In about 1998 Toyota/Lexus commited to a major (as it turns out more MAJOR then they predicted) transaxle design change mostly in favor of improved FE. The design change resulted in their transaxle's INABILITY to support two gear changes in quick succession in some situations, mostly if the gas pedal has been released into a position that results in an idling engine or almost so.

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