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#60 of 100 Re: 02 Mazda Protege with awful rust:( [02mazda]
Nov 05, 2011 (12:47 pm)
I negotiated a three way share on a rust fix on my Mazda Protege 5 2002.
Factory, dealer, and me. The tab was to be $ 1000.
When it came time to close the deal the dealer said Mazda factory rep had backed out of his commitment. So it was $ 1000 two way split. Another shop with high quality credentials did the job for $ 400. Which means the dealer only pretended to pay a portion of the bill and I really was going to foot the entire bill. This is fraud. My mileage was a few miles over 36,000 miles.
I'm still living with the fix and come back rust for a car I love to drive but am ashamed to let my car buff buddies see. I help run a car show for 8,000 spectators and 500 cars, and a scholarship of $ 11,000 for the local Auto Tech College.
This really has eaten at me. I love the Mazda drive. Zoom is a very real thing.
Is there any evidence they have addressed the rust issue?
Malibu lately just doesn't rust. An amazing achievement, but they are using technology any mfr can use.
Toyota and Honda have always seemed to have the rust problem over the rear wheel wells.
So Mazda is not alone.
My P5 had rust near the license plate the day I picked it up, which indicates to me that the boat ride was uncovered vehicles on the ocean.
Spread the word. Mazda needs to hurt badly on this issue, as does Honda and Toyota. That they will not deal with this is absurd.
#61 of 100 rust,rust, rust
Nov 05, 2011 (3:21 pm)
Maybe we should replace our zoom, zoom, zoom decals, w rust, rust, rust. Maybe get some attention. Just drove a Hyundai Sonata hybrid Blue Drive. Oh, my. My opinions of Korean cars have just changed. What a very nice ride. No more Mazdas in my future. Subaru? Oh, yeah. 02 Outback, no rust all! 77k miles. Hyundai? It was nice. Granted, I am sure it was a pretty pricey ride. My neighbor's car. He let me try it out this evening. Mazda did drop the ball, big time, on this whole fiasco.
#62 of 100 Re: rust,rust, rust [02mazda]
Nov 07, 2011 (12:17 pm)
Mazda did drop the ball, big time, on this whole fiasco.
I agree rust was a real problem in Mazda vehicles like my 2002 Protege5.
However, when it came to buy a new vehicle, I reviewed the field and decided that Mazda still offered the best deal and so I bought another Mazda (with some hesitation).
My reasoning was three fold:
1. my 10 year old Protege5 was in good condition in spite of the rust (note: the rusting had been corrected partially by actions by Mazda Canada and the dealership) ;
2. other vehicles of that vintage also had some rust (e.g. Toyota Corrollas, Honda Civics) although I must admit I tended to notice the problem in Mazdas most;
3. rust is inevitable when salt/brine is applied to road surfaces; the only recourse is to apply rustproofing as early as possible. Lesson learned: Rustproof your car right after purchase to protect it as soon as possible.
p.s. Mazda3 rear wheel wells have been redesigned and some rubber added to exposed portions; these seem to be in response to the Protege rust history.
Nov 20, 2011 (2:58 pm)
I just bought a new car and need to sell my 02 protege5. Looking at it, I have no idea why anyone would ever buy it. Rusting everywhere, lots of scratches, and I bought it with rims on it which forces me to have low profile tires. Great for driving in the winter as we all know.
Is there any way to fix the rust without taking it to a body shop? There is one major spot of rust above the wheel well (seems like the same spot for everyone) right where a new body panel starts. This panel continues around the windows to the side mirrors. Is it possible to just replace that panel myself? I tried to look online for a replacement panel with no luck. Anyone have any options? Also what kind of cost are we looking at for fixing rust at a body shop?
#64 of 100 Re: how to fix the rust [maverick81286]
Nov 21, 2011 (2:16 pm)
There is one major spot of rust above the wheel well (seems like the same spot for everyone) ... around the windows to the side mirrors
I have normally seen the rust on the rear wheel wells; it sounds like you are describing the rust next to the front quarter panels.
I tried to look online for a replacement panel with no luck. Anyone have any options?
Have you tried checking salvage yards?
what kind of cost are we looking at for fixing rust at a body shop?
Starting price could be $200 to $300 but could easily double or triple. I'd tell the shop that the car need not be restored to new just good enough to sell.
Personally, I'd figure out how much the car is worth as is (check cars in the classifieds for your area) and approximately how much the cost for the repair would be and then negotiate with a buyer.
#65 of 100 do the right thing
Feb 05, 2012 (5:37 am)
A friend church had a 98 Toyota Tacoma p/up that rusted out and had a bad ball joint. Toyota bought the truck back for twice what he paid for it. Another guy school had a Ford Windstar that had a bad rear axle and some other issues. Ford paid him more than he paid for it used and he spent $50 of his own money for a same model year Jeep Cherokee. Mazda, apparently, has worse customer service than even Ford! Wow. New low. Do the right thing! Fix these lemons.
#66 of 100 Re: do the right thing [02mazda]
Feb 06, 2012 (8:05 am)
98 Toyota Tacoma p/up that rusted out and had a bad ball joint. Toyota bought the truck back for twice what he paid for it
How old was the truck when this happened? Was the truck still under warranty? Were there special circustances with this case? This seems very unusual to me.
Auto manufacturers need to take responsibility for their products through warranties that are fairly administered.
#67 of 100 02 MP5, same rust issues..
Apr 28, 2012 (5:38 am)
I got my '02 4 years ago, driven 40k of its 115k miles. It had some smaller rust issues when I got it, it's gotten much worse since. Several rust issues underneath the car. Sway bar, part of exhaust, multiple ball joints, brakes, FUEL TANK all needed replaced since I got the car all due to rust. I discovered another part of my exhaust that needs repaired with another broken rusty part near the manifold that needs replaced. The bottom looks awful from all the rust.. MP5: fun drive, versatile, looks great for low initial cost - but very rust prone.. My heart would love a new(er) Mazda 3, but my mind will prevent that from happening. With that said, what car has the upsides of Mazda cars without the rust downside???!!?!
#68 of 100 Re: 02 MP5, same rust issues.. [jmoyer11]
Apr 28, 2012 (5:59 am)
Welcome to my world. I have some interesting clunks in the front end of my car. Not sure I want to spend the extra cash to have them taken care of. I have a horrendous patch of rust over my drivers' side wheel opening. Car has been paid for for over 5 years now. Only 59k miles:) Very disappointing. Mazda does nothing about this. I will never buy another one. Very pricey for what you get. My car is over 10 yrs old, but so is my Subie, w far fewer problems. Subie did take care of a head gasket issue when my car was out of warranty. I am 2nd owner of that car. Initial owner of Mazda. Have babied the Mazda. Mazda needs to take ownership of this problem. Best of luck.
#69 of 100 Re: 02 MP5, same rust issues.. [jmoyer11]
Apr 28, 2012 (6:03 am)
I would hope Mazda would monitor this board. We have recently reached a couple of very important financial milestones and certainly could buy a newer car if we so chose. Knowing this about Mazda, that brand is now no longer an option for us. I share this opinion w others, too. What part of No. America do you reside in? We are in MI, where we do get terrible winters, but still, rust in a y2k plus car should not be a problem.