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#26 of 100 Re: Mazda Protege Rust Problems [icvci]
Sep 17, 2009 (11:21 am)
I just wanted to post and say that I bought my Mazda Protege5 in July 2003, and have just started having rust problems in the last few months. Rust on the right rear door and my luck, the warranty ran out just right before we got in to see Mazda about all of this.
Of course, you know Mazda says they have nothing to do with this, and with no warranty for sure no help.
Well when we took it to 2 local car repairs, they said it was damaged sometime before I even bought the car, the panel inside the door wasn't affixed properly and the leaking caused the rusting. (the strip alongside the length of the car is also falling off at the rear)
The damage, they said, was most likely caused at the dealer they got the car from or when they got the car to the dealership where I actually signed & bought.
Of course, with this information, Mazda still will not budge. I'm really cheesed about this, and with seeing all of you having rust problems on 2003 Protege5's, it makes me mad. It might not be exactly the same situation in every case, but I think Mazda needs to be held accountable.
My car was serviced by Mazda for awhile and then by independent service businesses, and has never been in an accident, which my insurance can verify.
For anyone in a similar situation, it might be beneficial to take your car to a local shop and have them check it out and make sure it wasn't damaged like mine.
I really do wonder if enough people make a case for a suit against them...
Anyone who wants to do some more talking about this past this forum, you can email me at: devilishfallenangelhotmail.com
#27 of 100 Quixotic Solution to Mazda Protege Rust?
Sep 17, 2009 (11:55 am)
I bought my Mazda Protege5 in July 2003 ... 2 local car repairs ... said it was damaged sometime before ... the panel inside the door wasn't affixed properly and the leaking caused the rusting. (the strip alongside the length of the car is also falling off at the rear) The damage, they said, was most likely caused at the dealer ...
Hmm, although this may be true, it would be difficult to prove six years after the fact. You may want to consider other options rather than taking on MazdaUSA as the rust will not stop in the meantime. For example, you may want to negotiate with the dealer a reduction in the cost of the repair. In my case, I had the rust on my 2002 P5 removed two years ago; the rear wheelwells and panels were repainted for about C$250 as part of a goodwill agreement with my dealership. Prior to this, I had received independent evaluations of the work required and therefore knew the costs would easily be twice those proposed by the dealership, so I went along with the agreement. Not ideal but this may be better than fighting windmills (with apologies to Cervantes).
p.s. my repairs have held back the rust for the most part, but it's just a matter of time before it re-emerges; I am counting on another 2 to 3 years before moving onto my next vehicle.
#28 of 100 Perforation
Sep 18, 2009 (11:24 am)
Unless you have perforation of the panel, it is not covered under Mazda warranty. This is the norm, not the exception for rust warranty for majority of auto manufacturers.
So, anyone have an actual hole thru a panel?
#29 of 100 Re: Perforation [moparbad]
Sep 18, 2009 (11:37 am)
Thank you moparbad, very valuable comment for this discussion.
The dealers should be more articulate at presenting this case.
Perferation and industry norm was not mentioned in three meetings with the dealer and/or factory rep.
#30 of 100 Time to get a quote
Sep 20, 2009 (6:49 pm)
Have surface rust on lower rocker at seam on both sides of car and also in the rear wheel wells on inner surface. Will find out this week the cost to repair the problem areas.
Only 62K on my 03 and the finish is in great condition except for the areas mentioned above. Car has been garaged since new.
Well, not much I can do living in the "rust belt" with so much salt used in the winter.
#31 of 100 Re: Time to get a quote [moparbad]
Nov 15, 2009 (7:57 pm)
I saw an 03 this weekend local superstore. Had the same kind of rust you describe. Good luck. It was silver. I also saw a newer 626 w rust on the passenger side rear wheel well. I had not noticed this problem on the 626. The car, however, did not look as if it had been well maintained. Dents, dirty glass, very dirty & the driver, w/o resorting to any type of stereotypes, did not look as if he/she was really into maintaining cars. Sorry, I hate stereotypes, too, but Click & Clack would have called her "Dawna". Still love my Protege 5, just put new Generals on all 4(s), but wish they would/could do something about the rust issue. Balance of car is great. I would settle for a 50/50 or even 60/40 repair compromise.
#32 of 100 when did Mazda address this rust issue?
Aug 05, 2010 (6:52 am)
I simply can't believe the number of severely rusted Mazdas I have seen in the last 3 years. A friend's cancer broke out only after 4 years of ownership of her 02 or 03 Protege 5, but I see it on all Proteges.
So my question is: (assuming Mazda has surely addressed this issue by now??)
What year was this finally addressed? Did they do it with a thicker coat of hot galvanizing? Or maybe they foolishly weren't using hot galvanizing?
#33 of 100 Re: when did Mazda address this rust issue? [gimmestdtranny]
Aug 05, 2010 (10:14 am)
You are right rust is an issue for the 2002 and 2003 Proteges. Mine started appearing after the third year. I took some preventative maintenance (annual rust proofing) and repair (had rust removed from wheelwells in 2005). Now, over eight years old, my P5 looks very good and should last another couple of years (fingers crossed).
Since the Mazda3 replaced the Proteges starting in 2004 the problem may be occurring there. I see you posted the question on the Mazda3 forum which is a good idea.
By "hot galvanizing" I suppose you are referring to hot-dip galvanizing. I would imagine they do use the process but frankly, I've never found a reference to it in the Mazda manual or brochures, so it would be interesting to hear one way or the other.
#34 of 100 Re: when did Mazda address this rust issue? [autonomous]
Aug 07, 2010 (8:41 am)
I think I have seen a newer than 04 rusted P3. Trying to figure out the year they got on top of this.
Looks like this thread is not too active though it seems, so I guess Mazda owners are a complacent bunch? lol
Thanks for your reply.
#35 of 100 Re: when did Mazda address this rust issue? [gimmestdtranny]
Aug 07, 2010 (9:42 am)
It is not that we are not active, it is Mazda will not do anything to relieve our loss. I will not buy another Mazda and I will keep driving the one I have, so people can see the rust on the car. Also, if they ever ask me, I will do my best to let them know that Mazda does not back up their cars, once they are bought.