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Mazda Protege Rust Problems

31 messages,  Last post on Nov 15, 2009 at 6:57 PM

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Re: only recourse [kschleic] by iamz
Sep 03, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: kschleic (Sep 03, 2009 6:59 am)

You've been very lucky then. What about all your other Mazdas (besides your 626)? How did they hold up? All my red cars started fading in about 3 years. My yellow P5 took about 7 years before it started showing paint fade. That's pretty good since it always sits outside.
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Re: only recourse [kschleic] by iamz
Sep 03, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: kschleic (Sep 03, 2009 6:59 am)

A friend here at work has a Chevy S10 that is one year older than my P5 and half as many miles. It has holes eaten through the rocker panels. If you like your cars pretty and rust free, DO NOT move to Minnesota. We just have different expectations, apparently, based on our experiences.
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Re: only recourse [zoom_oh_2002p5] by 02mazda
Sep 03, 2009 (5:02 pm)
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Replying to: zoom_oh_2002p5 (Sep 02, 2009 6:06 pm)

My Protege 5 says "made in Japan". I shall take them their word on this.
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Re: only recourse [iamz] by 02mazda
Sep 03, 2009 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: iamz (Sep 03, 2009 6:30 am)

I guess I must have been pretty fortunate w my other cars then. I live on the west coast of MI, not more than 6 miles from Lake Michigan. We got lots & lots of snow. My '96 Taurus wagon never showed rust. My '94 Dodge Shadow never showed rust. Same for my '02 Outback. I keep them very clean & garaged 9 months out of the year. Get least 3 coats of wax each summer. Wash them myself w Turtle Wax Auto cleaner. 40k miles is too quick to rust. A shame, as otherwise the car is quite nice. It is a manufacturing defect plain & simple.
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Re: only recourse [kschleic] by 02mazda
Sep 03, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: kschleic (Sep 03, 2009 6:59 am)

Must be the great weather you get in MD. If Mazda or any manufacturer wants to sell a car in all 50 states those cars s/b engineered to withstand the weather in whatever market the car ends up in. This car was obviously not designed for our brutal winters, yet it was sold here by a MI dealer. Shame on Mazda. My Outback is a dream here, & rust free to boot.
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Re: Mazda Protege Rust Problems [icvci] by devilishangel
Sep 17, 2009 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: icvci (May 19, 2008 12:57 pm)

Hi everyone,
I just wanted to post and say that I bought my Mazda Protege5 in July 2003, and have just started having rust problems in the last few months. Rust on the right rear door and my luck, the warranty ran out just right before we got in to see Mazda about all of this.
Of course, you know Mazda says they have nothing to do with this, and with no warranty for sure no help.
Well when we took it to 2 local car repairs, they said it was damaged sometime before I even bought the car, the panel inside the door wasn't affixed properly and the leaking caused the rusting. (the strip alongside the length of the car is also falling off at the rear)
The damage, they said, was most likely caused at the dealer they got the car from or when they got the car to the dealership where I actually signed & bought.
Of course, with this information, Mazda still will not budge. I'm really cheesed about this, and with seeing all of you having rust problems on 2003 Protege5's, it makes me mad. It might not be exactly the same situation in every case, but I think Mazda needs to be held accountable.
My car was serviced by Mazda for awhile and then by independent service businesses, and has never been in an accident, which my insurance can verify.
For anyone in a similar situation, it might be beneficial to take your car to a local shop and have them check it out and make sure it wasn't damaged like mine.
I really do wonder if enough people make a case for a suit against them...
Anyone who wants to do some more talking about this past this forum, you can email me at: devilishfallenangelhotmail.com
 
Laura
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Quixotic Solution to Mazda Protege Rust? by autonomous
Sep 17, 2009 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: devilishangel (Sep 17, 2009 10:21 am)

I bought my Mazda Protege5 in July 2003 ... 2 local car repairs ... said it was damaged sometime before ... the panel inside the door wasn't affixed properly and the leaking caused the rusting. (the strip alongside the length of the car is also falling off at the rear) The damage, they said, was most likely caused at the dealer ...
 
Hmm, although this may be true, it would be difficult to prove six years after the fact. You may want to consider other options rather than taking on MazdaUSA as the rust will not stop in the meantime. For example, you may want to negotiate with the dealer a reduction in the cost of the repair. In my case, I had the rust on my 2002 P5 removed two years ago; the rear wheelwells and panels were repainted for about C$250 as part of a goodwill agreement with my dealership. Prior to this, I had received independent evaluations of the work required and therefore knew the costs would easily be twice those proposed by the dealership, so I went along with the agreement. Not ideal but this may be better than fighting windmills (with apologies to Cervantes).
 
p.s. my repairs have held back the rust for the most part, but it's just a matter of time before it re-emerges; I am counting on another 2 to 3 years before moving onto my next vehicle.
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Perforation by moparbad
Sep 18, 2009 (10:24 am)
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Unless you have perforation of the panel, it is not covered under Mazda warranty. This is the norm, not the exception for rust warranty for majority of auto manufacturers.
 
So, anyone have an actual hole thru a panel?
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Re: Perforation [moparbad] by zoom_oh_2002p5
Sep 18, 2009 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Sep 18, 2009 10:24 am)

Thank you moparbad, very valuable comment for this discussion.
The dealers should be more articulate at presenting this case.
Perferation and industry norm was not mentioned in three meetings with the dealer and/or factory rep.
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Time to get a quote by moparbad
Sep 20, 2009 (5:49 pm)
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Have surface rust on lower rocker at seam on both sides of car and also in the rear wheel wells on inner surface. Will find out this week the cost to repair the problem areas.
Only 62K on my 03 and the finish is in great condition except for the areas mentioned above. Car has been garaged since new.
Well, not much I can do living in the "rust belt" with so much salt used in the winter.

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