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Mazda Protege, Mazda Protege5, Auto Body, Paint, Sedan, Wagon
#18 of 100 Re: only recourse [02mazda]
Sep 02, 2009 (6:06 pm)
Seems to me this might be an opportunity for a class action settlement.
It is a consistent problem.
Anyone know of any rust class actions that succeeded on other makes?
The Toyota pickup had a rust problem with the frame that became a structural problem.
Toyota gave trade ins on the the problem trucks and a good price on the replacement new truck.
My brother in law was a victim of this rust.
The problem with the Mazda Protege5 2002 and 2003 is in the same place as Hondas and Toyotas in the 90's rusted out.
Best check is to look at a car you are looking to buy, a model that is 7 years old.
We have had four Miatas, some 10 years old and never had the problem at this location.
I believe some of the problem Protege5's were made in Thailand.
#19 of 100 Re: only recourse [zoom_oh_2002p5]
Sep 03, 2009 (6:30 am)
"I believe some of the problem Protege5's were made in Thailand. "
That is simply not true. They were built in Japan.
I think you guys expect a little too much out of your cars. It is pretty normal for rust to be showing up on cars that are 7 or 8 eight years old in areas of the country where they dump profuse amounts of salt on the roads in the winters. I can tell you first hand that Honda has always had a problem with rust. Their cars show the same amount of rust and more than my P5. The leading edge of the hood on my VW was considerably rusted after 6 years. It is what it is.
#20 of 100 Re: only recourse [iamz]
Sep 03, 2009 (6:59 am)
I have lived in MD all my life. I had a mazda 626 for 10 years. I had 285,000 miles on it. I had no rust or no paint fade. I have owned a Cavalier for 9 years. I drove it 240,000 milesI had no rust or paint fade. I have a 1995 dodge dakota. I have no rust on it. I take care of my vehicles.
#21 of 100 Re: only recourse [kschleic]
Sep 03, 2009 (8:02 am)
You've been very lucky then. What about all your other Mazdas (besides your 626)? How did they hold up? All my red cars started fading in about 3 years. My yellow P5 took about 7 years before it started showing paint fade. That's pretty good since it always sits outside.
#22 of 100 Re: only recourse [kschleic]
Sep 03, 2009 (11:17 am)
A friend here at work has a Chevy S10 that is one year older than my P5 and half as many miles. It has holes eaten through the rocker panels. If you like your cars pretty and rust free, DO NOT move to Minnesota. We just have different expectations, apparently, based on our experiences.
#23 of 100 Re: only recourse [zoom_oh_2002p5]
Sep 03, 2009 (5:02 pm)
My Protege 5 says "made in Japan". I shall take them their word on this.
#24 of 100 Re: only recourse [iamz]
Sep 03, 2009 (5:07 pm)
I guess I must have been pretty fortunate w my other cars then. I live on the west coast of MI, not more than 6 miles from Lake Michigan. We got lots & lots of snow. My '96 Taurus wagon never showed rust. My '94 Dodge Shadow never showed rust. Same for my '02 Outback. I keep them very clean & garaged 9 months out of the year. Get least 3 coats of wax each summer. Wash them myself w Turtle Wax Auto cleaner. 40k miles is too quick to rust. A shame, as otherwise the car is quite nice. It is a manufacturing defect plain & simple.
#25 of 100 Re: only recourse [kschleic]
Sep 03, 2009 (5:10 pm)
Must be the great weather you get in MD. If Mazda or any manufacturer wants to sell a car in all 50 states those cars s/b engineered to withstand the weather in whatever market the car ends up in. This car was obviously not designed for our brutal winters, yet it was sold here by a MI dealer. Shame on Mazda. My Outback is a dream here, & rust free to boot.
#26 of 100 Re: Mazda Protege Rust Problems [icvci]
Sep 17, 2009 (10:21 am)
I just wanted to post and say that I bought my Mazda Protege5 in July 2003, and have just started having rust problems in the last few months. Rust on the right rear door and my luck, the warranty ran out just right before we got in to see Mazda about all of this.
Of course, you know Mazda says they have nothing to do with this, and with no warranty for sure no help.
Well when we took it to 2 local car repairs, they said it was damaged sometime before I even bought the car, the panel inside the door wasn't affixed properly and the leaking caused the rusting. (the strip alongside the length of the car is also falling off at the rear)
The damage, they said, was most likely caused at the dealer they got the car from or when they got the car to the dealership where I actually signed & bought.
Of course, with this information, Mazda still will not budge. I'm really cheesed about this, and with seeing all of you having rust problems on 2003 Protege5's, it makes me mad. It might not be exactly the same situation in every case, but I think Mazda needs to be held accountable.
My car was serviced by Mazda for awhile and then by independent service businesses, and has never been in an accident, which my insurance can verify.
For anyone in a similar situation, it might be beneficial to take your car to a local shop and have them check it out and make sure it wasn't damaged like mine.
I really do wonder if enough people make a case for a suit against them...
Anyone who wants to do some more talking about this past this forum, you can email me at: devilishfallenangelhotmail.com
#27 of 100 Quixotic Solution to Mazda Protege Rust?
Sep 17, 2009 (10:55 am)
I bought my Mazda Protege5 in July 2003 ... 2 local car repairs ... said it was damaged sometime before ... the panel inside the door wasn't affixed properly and the leaking caused the rusting. (the strip alongside the length of the car is also falling off at the rear) The damage, they said, was most likely caused at the dealer ...
Hmm, although this may be true, it would be difficult to prove six years after the fact. You may want to consider other options rather than taking on MazdaUSA as the rust will not stop in the meantime. For example, you may want to negotiate with the dealer a reduction in the cost of the repair. In my case, I had the rust on my 2002 P5 removed two years ago; the rear wheelwells and panels were repainted for about C$250 as part of a goodwill agreement with my dealership. Prior to this, I had received independent evaluations of the work required and therefore knew the costs would easily be twice those proposed by the dealership, so I went along with the agreement. Not ideal but this may be better than fighting windmills (with apologies to Cervantes).
p.s. my repairs have held back the rust for the most part, but it's just a matter of time before it re-emerges; I am counting on another 2 to 3 years before moving onto my next vehicle.