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2010 Honda CR-Z

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#61 of 78
Fit Coupe by hpmctorque
Apr 23, 2009 (5:52 am)
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What I'd like to see is coupe and roadster versions of the Fit.
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Re: Fit Coupe [hpmctorque] by englishpete
Apr 23, 2009 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 23, 2009 5:52 am)

You mean a roadster with a fold down metal roof, every one else makes them but its a bit to radical for Honda, You will not get one, there are only into building old mens cars now, No S2000 nothing sporty at all, and if we ever see the CRZ ?.what will it be like.
Try BMW,VW, Peugeot,Ford,Audi,Volvo,Mazda need i go on they all make them.
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Re: Fit Coupe [hpmctorque] by nippononly
Apr 23, 2009 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 23, 2009 5:52 am)

I wouldn't have minded seeing a 3 door Fit as the CRZ, with the Fit powertrains and a MUCH better handling package, a la CRX. It would have to have a much lower roofline of course. That would have been a true spiritual successor to the CRX, which never had a ton of power after all, even in the SI.
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Re: Fit Coupe [englishpete] by hpmctorque
Apr 23, 2009 (4:53 pm)
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"You mean a roadster with a fold down metal roof..."
 
I prefer fabric roofs to metal ones, because the proportions look better to me. In addition, fabric roofs have a weight and cost advantage. Of course, metal tops offer better security, but to me the tradeoffs aren't worth it. Regardless, I think it's idle chatter because I agree with you that Honda won't offer a small roadster.
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Re: Fit Coupe [nippononly] by hpmctorque
Apr 23, 2009 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 23, 2009 7:17 am)

My thoughts exactly, but Honda isn't going to give us what we want.
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Re: CRZ V Scirocco [nippononly] by englishpete
Jun 07, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 21, 2009 7:11 am)

Well thought I would let you know I have placed an order for a Scirocco GT TDI 170 this being the latest variant to be offered by VW. It’s the same engine that’s being supplied for the new Golf GTD and is in the Audi TT TDI.
0 to 62 in 8 seconds and 60 to the gallon do we really need hybrids?
The car looks better in the metal. pictures don’t do it justice.
 
Not rubbing salt into the wounds but got fed up with Honda and the lack of information, I think Honda are in deep trouble. They have only just reopened the plant here in the uk after 6 months closer, most of what they make here goes for export to the rest of Europe.
I hope Honda don’t go under but they should do their best to preserve what costumers that are loyal to them by producing cars their costumers want.
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Breaking News... by hpmctorque
Sep 30, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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From Automotive News, 9/30...
 
"The front-wheel-drive car pairs Honda's integrated motor assist hybrid system with a 1.5-liter i-VTEC engine and six-speed manual transmission. Honda hasn't announced fuel economy figures. The CR-Z is billed as the spiritual successor to Honda's popular CR-X."
 
Unless it's a misprint, the CR-Z will have a manual transmission after all. Does this still leave a tiny doubt as to whether the manual will also be available in the U.S.?
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Re: Breaking News... [hpmctorque] by nippononly
Oct 04, 2009 (10:13 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 30, 2009 3:05 pm)

It's also printed here
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090930/TOKYO/909309998
and I trust Auto News to be careful with their quotes from press releases, so I'm elated - CRZ WILL have a manual transmission!
 
Now the only worry is that it will be only for the home market, where it goes on sale first, and not for the U.S.
 
There's a new pic at that link too. Even though it is fairly obviously a shortened 2-seat version of the Insight, they have made it look good, and curb weight should be down from the Insight with any luck, given the reduced size.
 
We will have it in a year or so - I hope it finds enough sales for them to keep it on the market here. I still see used CRXs all over the place, and the newest models of that car are close to 20 years old now.
 
Oh, and BTW, the design is getting mixed reviews at that Autoweek link. Someone has suggested that they offer a CRZ SI using the 200 hp engine from the current Civic SI, and if they did that I would just DIE. I would be first in line, camping out at the dealership for an SI like that!
 
But if it's a proper manual with the Insight powerplant and pulls 45-50 mpg, and has the handling of a CRX, I will be more than satisified too.
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CRZ updates by englishpete
Oct 05, 2009 (2:03 am)
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Try these links dont know if we will get more info in the uk
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/Honda-Concepts/243692/
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/242563/hybrid_crz_turns_up_hea- t.html.
Took delivery of my new Scirocco last week its a dream so glad Honda could not get the CRZ on sale
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Re: Breaking News... [nippononly] by hpmctorque
Oct 05, 2009 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 04, 2009 10:13 pm)

I wonder about the weight distribution of this short FWD hybrid. Will it be similar to the traditional ~60% front. 40% rear? For handling purposes it would be good if the weight over the front wheels were no more, and preferably a little less than 60%. Much less than 60% up front could result in traction problems, while much more would hurt handling.
 
Personally, I'd prefer the following two engine choices in place of the hybrid: A naturally aspirated, direct injection 1.3 for economy, and a turbocharged version for performance. That's because I remain skeptical of the cost, complexity, weight and space efficiency issues associated with hybrids. Maybe my concerns will prove frivolous.

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