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Re: PS [englishpete] by nippononly
Feb 18, 2009 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: englishpete (Feb 17, 2009 2:00 pm)

My favorite part of the article:
 
"CVT is fine for the market, mostly. But we are Honda! We must have a manual!"
 
I could really get into this little car if they build it with a stick. I am sure the 1.8L won't make 140 hp in the CRZ, as that is its power rating in the Civic gasser and they always detune them for added fuel economy in the IMA versions. But at 2800 pounds, if it had 140 hp total (including the electric assist) that would be fun anyway. More important to me would be the handling package - none of that LRR-tires-and-eliminate-the-rear-sway philosophy to reduce weight and add mpgs will be acceptable!
 
I find it truly bizarre that Honda still plans on going ahead with a hybrid Fit, given that the Insight is a hybrid Fit in all but name already.
 
And I'm still on pins and needles, as I have found that MT is usually the least accurate of all the magazines with its prognostications... :-/
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Re: PS [nippononly] by englishpete
Feb 18, 2009 (5:18 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 18, 2009 9:13 am)

Thought that this article would cheer you up, but I do think that the guy that wrote it was making it up as he went along just a tad, his dates are well out and as much as I would like to see the 1.8 in this car I think the 1.5 that I was told of by a man from Honda may be more correct.
Its common sense if you make a car that’s sporty and fun to dive it has to be a manual box.
Have posted this before but was told the engine would be a 1.5 high torque engine and with the IMA would have a time of 0 to 60 in 5.6 seconds, that’s good by my book.
Not concerned about the MPG so much but expect55/ 60 as I can get 46 urban from my presant 1.5 Civic estate, (this is uk gallons yours are bigger). This being much heavier and with the odd tools in the back is not bad.
Now if we can have the dash and seats that the concept has we are on the way to something special.
As for tires if its on 17" or 18" wheels and low profile's it should stick to the road like shit to a blanket.
I would like to see the 2.2 turbo diesel as and option, its faster and better on fuel than the 1.8 petrol.
With Honda killing off the S2000 at the end of the year who knows what we may see when this recession is over.
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Re: PS [englishpete] by nippononly
Feb 18, 2009 (11:40 pm)
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Replying to: englishpete (Feb 18, 2009 5:18 pm)

I like your thinking! Although I think standard 16s and optional 17s would be fine for the rims on such a small light car. And if the engine is really a 1.5, even if it's a turbo with IMA, I think 5.6 secs to 60 might be a touch optimistic. But 7 seconds would be fast enough for me. I like the visual profile of the thing in that latest article you linked.
 
I really want to know WHEN we will see this model on dealer lots in the States. I think that with the very little news we have heard of it from Honda so far, it will NOT be appearing late this year as a 2010 model.
 
I will keep my hopes up that we will see it next year as a 2011.
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Re: PS [nippononly] by englishpete
Feb 19, 2009 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 18, 2009 11:40 pm)

Yes 17” would be a good size.
As to performance that would depend on what horse power the electric motor has, if they up the engine cc to 1.5 or greater then one would hope that the HP of the electric side should also be greater ( the proportion of this is up to Mr Honda not forgetting battery size).
Electric power (torque) is instant (unlike a combustion engine power has to be developed) so if E horse power is a good proportion of total output 0 to 60 would be very short. You don’t need a turbo unless you want to continue the acceleration rate into high speed as at that point the E motor would be no longer of help at higher speed as by this time the petrol side is developing full power.
If you follow F1 racing this will be the first year that they will be using KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems) this is the same technology that we are talking of here.
Again when I was told of the engine size for the CRZ and 0 to 60 I was informed that the power output of the combined output would be that of a 2lt engine and this in a car that’s small and light means fast.
As to when you will see the car on the sales floor I would hope it would be the same time as the UK and that looks like December 09. So that should give you something to think about, just hope my logic is correct.
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Honda CR-Z 2009 CONCEPT by alwinaugustin
Mar 06, 2009 (10:26 pm)
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Replying to: englishpete (Feb 19, 2009 6:07 pm)

Futuristic styling. Hybrid power. Advanced interior design. And it’s all wrapped up in a lightweight, fun-to-drive package.This is how the new Honda CR-Z is described in Honda web site.This is an enviornment friendly,inspiring design vehisle.The CR-Zstands for “Compact Renaissance Zero".According to Honda their goal is to deliver a small CR-Z-based hybrid in the near future as part of their commitment to help effect positive environmental change
Check this car at http://automobiles.honda.com/cr-z/ and you can see various concepts cars displayed across the motor shows at http://checkmeforconcepts.blogspot.com
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Re: Honda CR-Z 2009 CONCEPT [alwinaugustin] by nippononly
Mar 10, 2009 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: alwinaugustin (Mar 06, 2009 9:26 pm)

That reminds me I meant to say, have you looked at this side profile Honda has posted? This thing has windows like gun slits and a beltline so high I doubt even the driver's head would appear above it. Outward visibility could be a nightmare in this thing.
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Re: Honda CR-Z 2009 CONCEPT [nippononly] by englishpete
Mar 10, 2009 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 10, 2009 8:54 am)

Yes the car has a low profile but its not unlike any other coupe on the market, The final shape of the car will change a little when it goes into production but I think unless you are vertically challenged your see out just fine, Have a look at the Civic R type GT (in white) some of the CRZ shape is there add the CRZ front and back and it’s a CRZ. Like I have said before this car will sit on a Civic chassis.
This also makes you think as to the price, The R type is £18700 in the UK ($26157) so the crz should be less than this if Honda sticks to their pricing promise.
Now a R Type engine in a CRZ would make you sit up and take notice.
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Re: Honda CR-Z 2009 CONCEPT [nippononly] by alwinaugustin
Mar 18, 2009 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 10, 2009 8:54 am)

That may be correct .But the efforts for making such a hybrid thing should be appreciated.and this may be the concept design only and let us hope that they people will change it.
Please feel free to check
http://checkmeforconcepts.blogspot.com for the new additions.
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Re: Honda CR-Z 2009 CONCEPT [alwinaugustin] by englishpete
Mar 19, 2009 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: alwinaugustin (Mar 18, 2009 7:13 pm)

I think that your right and we should give Honda the chance to come up with the goods on this car, Only hope its not going to get shelved,
We had the news here today that the UK Motor show has been canceled because the manufactures can not afford to go so new models may well get the same treatment.
Liked the link by the way, here is on for you to check out.
 
  http://foreman.blogs.topgear.com/2009/02/17/honda-crz-keeps-the-flag-flying/
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Re: Honda CR-Z 2009 CONCEPT [englishpete] by alwinaugustin
Mar 20, 2009 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: englishpete (Mar 19, 2009 5:20 pm)

Hi
 
That blog was very nice .Thanks for giving me the link.Ofcourse this automobile indusytry is under some unique pressure due to the recession and they people will be busy with the bailout etc rather than the concepts and shows.They may be in search for a concept that may rescue themselves.he he.So I think there may be a chance to cancel more hows.Anyway it is sad to hear that the prestegious motor show is not there.Also it is intresting to know that Honda had a plan for building non-hybrid version.Yes Toyota displayed a number of concept vehilcles in thier website http://www.toyota.com/concept-vehicles/ both hybrid and non hybrid.
 
Thanks for visiting my blog and please tell about it to others(even though it is not worth for that).

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