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Future Vehicles 2010 Honda CR-Z
78 messages, Last post on Oct 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 01, 2009 1:39 pm) Agree hope that Honda dont fall into that trap, keep hearing stories of how honda are letting their build standard slip through out the range. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 02, 2009 7:29 am) Honda only has its self to blame for comments like you can read above, they are the only car manufacture that brings out a proposed new model with the intention of putting it on sale and then have the argents to keep potential customers in the dark for nearly 2 years as to its details. Looks like a good way to kill any interest from the start. And no I fear you going to get the rubber band auto gear box of the Insight. |
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Here is what you can do with a 2 lt diesel engine, look at the times and the weight speed and MPG Volkswagen has unveiled this mid-engined two-seat roadster concept at this week’s Detroit show. It’s the latest step in the firm’s long-running flirtation with a Lotus Elise rival. Powered by a transversely mounted 2.0-litre, four-cylinder diesel engine, the VW Concept BlueSport is a sports car designed with current emissions and budget-sensitive times firmly in mind. With a kerb weight of less than 1200kg, the roadster has been conceived to appeal to keen drivers. It’s capable of cracking 62mph from rest in 6.6sec and hitting 140mph flat out. And yet, thanks to its advanced diesel powertrain and modest weight, the car should also be capable of around 50mpg on the combined cycle and better than 60mpg while touring. |
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"Where did you read that?" I'm sorry, but I can't recall where I read it. It was on a link, and was based on a news release from Honda. It didn't say anything about transmission choices. More information on the CR-Z should be available before long. I don't want to prejudge this car, but if it's as quiet as other hybrids, it won't sound like a sporty car. A sporty exhaust note adds to the sporty feeling a car of this type communicates. |
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Ok for those of you that are still interested in buying a new CRZ according to Autocar magazine (uk) under the heading “What’s to Come When”(the dates dealers will not be telling you about (page33) ) is listed for December 2009 Honda’s CRZ. Would expect Honda to give the details about September/October 09. Hope it’s worth the wait folks, nearly 3 years, why so long? |
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 02, 2009 7:29 am) http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2009/112_0904_2011_honda_crz/index.- html If the facts are correct might be worth the wait?
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Replying to: englishpete (Feb 17, 2009 1:00 pm) "CVT is fine for the market, mostly. But we are Honda! We must have a manual!" I could really get into this little car if they build it with a stick. I am sure the 1.8L won't make 140 hp in the CRZ, as that is its power rating in the Civic gasser and they always detune them for added fuel economy in the IMA versions. But at 2800 pounds, if it had 140 hp total (including the electric assist) that would be fun anyway. More important to me would be the handling package - none of that LRR-tires-and-eliminate-the-rear-sway philosophy to reduce weight and add mpgs will be acceptable! I find it truly bizarre that Honda still plans on going ahead with a hybrid Fit, given that the Insight is a hybrid Fit in all but name already. And I'm still on pins and needles, as I have found that MT is usually the least accurate of all the magazines with its prognostications... :-/
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 18, 2009 8:13 am) Its common sense if you make a car that’s sporty and fun to dive it has to be a manual box. Have posted this before but was told the engine would be a 1.5 high torque engine and with the IMA would have a time of 0 to 60 in 5.6 seconds, that’s good by my book. Not concerned about the MPG so much but expect55/ 60 as I can get 46 urban from my presant 1.5 Civic estate, (this is uk gallons yours are bigger). This being much heavier and with the odd tools in the back is not bad. Now if we can have the dash and seats that the concept has we are on the way to something special. As for tires if its on 17" or 18" wheels and low profile's it should stick to the road like shit to a blanket. I would like to see the 2.2 turbo diesel as and option, its faster and better on fuel than the 1.8 petrol. With Honda killing off the S2000 at the end of the year who knows what we may see when this recession is over.
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Replying to: englishpete (Feb 18, 2009 4:18 pm)  I really want to know WHEN we will see this model on dealer lots in the States. I think that with the very little news we have heard of it from Honda so far, it will NOT be appearing late this year as a 2010 model.  I will keep my hopes up that we will see it next year as a 2011.
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 18, 2009 10:40 pm) As to performance that would depend on what horse power the electric motor has, if they up the engine cc to 1.5 or greater then one would hope that the HP of the electric side should also be greater ( the proportion of this is up to Mr Honda not forgetting battery size). Electric power (torque) is instant (unlike a combustion engine power has to be developed) so if E horse power is a good proportion of total output 0 to 60 would be very short. You don’t need a turbo unless you want to continue the acceleration rate into high speed as at that point the E motor would be no longer of help at higher speed as by this time the petrol side is developing full power. If you follow F1 racing this will be the first year that they will be using KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems) this is the same technology that we are talking of here. Again when I was told of the engine size for the CRZ and 0 to 60 I was informed that the power output of the combined output would be that of a 2lt engine and this in a car that’s small and light means fast. As to when you will see the car on the sales floor I would hope it would be the same time as the UK and that looks like December 09. So that should give you something to think about, just hope my logic is correct.
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