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Future Vehicles 2010 Honda CR-Z
78 messages, Last post on Oct 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM
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It IS beginning to sound like the CRZ will be nothing more than a reshaped 3-door Insight, in which case my interest in it will end post-haste. Is it too much for me to hold out hope that it might have a stick and low weight? Low weight was a specific design goal for this model, from what Honda published on it before. Low weight and hybrid don't usually go together, but heck, the Insight with 5 doors is only going to weigh around 2725. Could they get the CRZ under 2500? I think it's a possibility. If they could get it under the 2500-pound threshold and offer it with a stick, I wouldn't mind that it was a hybrid. Indeed, I would welcome the fuel economy.
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 01, 2009 1:39 pm) Agree hope that Honda dont fall into that trap, keep hearing stories of how honda are letting their build standard slip through out the range. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 02, 2009 7:29 am) Honda only has its self to blame for comments like you can read above, they are the only car manufacture that brings out a proposed new model with the intention of putting it on sale and then have the argents to keep potential customers in the dark for nearly 2 years as to its details. Looks like a good way to kill any interest from the start. And no I fear you going to get the rubber band auto gear box of the Insight. |
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Here is what you can do with a 2 lt diesel engine, look at the times and the weight speed and MPG Volkswagen has unveiled this mid-engined two-seat roadster concept at this week’s Detroit show. It’s the latest step in the firm’s long-running flirtation with a Lotus Elise rival. Powered by a transversely mounted 2.0-litre, four-cylinder diesel engine, the VW Concept BlueSport is a sports car designed with current emissions and budget-sensitive times firmly in mind. With a kerb weight of less than 1200kg, the roadster has been conceived to appeal to keen drivers. It’s capable of cracking 62mph from rest in 6.6sec and hitting 140mph flat out. And yet, thanks to its advanced diesel powertrain and modest weight, the car should also be capable of around 50mpg on the combined cycle and better than 60mpg while touring. |
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"Where did you read that?" I'm sorry, but I can't recall where I read it. It was on a link, and was based on a news release from Honda. It didn't say anything about transmission choices. More information on the CR-Z should be available before long. I don't want to prejudge this car, but if it's as quiet as other hybrids, it won't sound like a sporty car. A sporty exhaust note adds to the sporty feeling a car of this type communicates. |
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Ok for those of you that are still interested in buying a new CRZ according to Autocar magazine (uk) under the heading “What’s to Come When”(the dates dealers will not be telling you about (page33) ) is listed for December 2009 Honda’s CRZ. Would expect Honda to give the details about September/October 09. Hope it’s worth the wait folks, nearly 3 years, why so long? |
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 02, 2009 7:29 am) http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2009/112_0904_2011_honda_crz/index.- html If the facts are correct might be worth the wait?
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Replying to: englishpete (Feb 17, 2009 1:00 pm) "CVT is fine for the market, mostly. But we are Honda! We must have a manual!" I could really get into this little car if they build it with a stick. I am sure the 1.8L won't make 140 hp in the CRZ, as that is its power rating in the Civic gasser and they always detune them for added fuel economy in the IMA versions. But at 2800 pounds, if it had 140 hp total (including the electric assist) that would be fun anyway. More important to me would be the handling package - none of that LRR-tires-and-eliminate-the-rear-sway philosophy to reduce weight and add mpgs will be acceptable! I find it truly bizarre that Honda still plans on going ahead with a hybrid Fit, given that the Insight is a hybrid Fit in all but name already. And I'm still on pins and needles, as I have found that MT is usually the least accurate of all the magazines with its prognostications... :-/
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 18, 2009 8:13 am) Its common sense if you make a car that’s sporty and fun to dive it has to be a manual box. Have posted this before but was told the engine would be a 1.5 high torque engine and with the IMA would have a time of 0 to 60 in 5.6 seconds, that’s good by my book. Not concerned about the MPG so much but expect55/ 60 as I can get 46 urban from my presant 1.5 Civic estate, (this is uk gallons yours are bigger). This being much heavier and with the odd tools in the back is not bad. Now if we can have the dash and seats that the concept has we are on the way to something special. As for tires if its on 17" or 18" wheels and low profile's it should stick to the road like shit to a blanket. I would like to see the 2.2 turbo diesel as and option, its faster and better on fuel than the 1.8 petrol. With Honda killing off the S2000 at the end of the year who knows what we may see when this recession is over.
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Replying to: englishpete (Feb 18, 2009 4:18 pm)  I really want to know WHEN we will see this model on dealer lots in the States. I think that with the very little news we have heard of it from Honda so far, it will NOT be appearing late this year as a 2010 model.  I will keep my hopes up that we will see it next year as a 2011.
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