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Future Vehicles 2010 Honda CR-Z
78 messages, Last post on Oct 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 31, 2009 7:11 am) Honda seems to be missing a point here, what’s the first thing that attracts you to a car? Like a woman its looks, no good if you look under the hood to find it the engine reminds you of your grandmother, yes we all want economy but you want power to, if V W can produce the Blue Sport with a 2Lt diesel engine doing 50 to the gallon and 140 mph I am sure Mr. Honda can fit one of its diesel engines and still get good economy. The other thing to bear in mind is the with any vehicle that has these batteries that at some point in its life they will have to be replaced at great cost, this will greatly affect the cars second hand price. |
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 31, 2009 7:11 am) At TOV all the enthusiasts are talking about how the days of Honda as we knew it are over, and soon it will just be a pale imitation of Toyota. I sure hope not.
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It IS beginning to sound like the CRZ will be nothing more than a reshaped 3-door Insight, in which case my interest in it will end post-haste. Is it too much for me to hold out hope that it might have a stick and low weight? Low weight was a specific design goal for this model, from what Honda published on it before. Low weight and hybrid don't usually go together, but heck, the Insight with 5 doors is only going to weigh around 2725. Could they get the CRZ under 2500? I think it's a possibility. If they could get it under the 2500-pound threshold and offer it with a stick, I wouldn't mind that it was a hybrid. Indeed, I would welcome the fuel economy.
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 01, 2009 1:39 pm) Agree hope that Honda dont fall into that trap, keep hearing stories of how honda are letting their build standard slip through out the range. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 02, 2009 7:29 am) Honda only has its self to blame for comments like you can read above, they are the only car manufacture that brings out a proposed new model with the intention of putting it on sale and then have the argents to keep potential customers in the dark for nearly 2 years as to its details. Looks like a good way to kill any interest from the start. And no I fear you going to get the rubber band auto gear box of the Insight. |
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Here is what you can do with a 2 lt diesel engine, look at the times and the weight speed and MPG Volkswagen has unveiled this mid-engined two-seat roadster concept at this week’s Detroit show. It’s the latest step in the firm’s long-running flirtation with a Lotus Elise rival. Powered by a transversely mounted 2.0-litre, four-cylinder diesel engine, the VW Concept BlueSport is a sports car designed with current emissions and budget-sensitive times firmly in mind. With a kerb weight of less than 1200kg, the roadster has been conceived to appeal to keen drivers. It’s capable of cracking 62mph from rest in 6.6sec and hitting 140mph flat out. And yet, thanks to its advanced diesel powertrain and modest weight, the car should also be capable of around 50mpg on the combined cycle and better than 60mpg while touring. |
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"Where did you read that?" I'm sorry, but I can't recall where I read it. It was on a link, and was based on a news release from Honda. It didn't say anything about transmission choices. More information on the CR-Z should be available before long. I don't want to prejudge this car, but if it's as quiet as other hybrids, it won't sound like a sporty car. A sporty exhaust note adds to the sporty feeling a car of this type communicates. |
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Ok for those of you that are still interested in buying a new CRZ according to Autocar magazine (uk) under the heading “What’s to Come When”(the dates dealers will not be telling you about (page33) ) is listed for December 2009 Honda’s CRZ. Would expect Honda to give the details about September/October 09. Hope it’s worth the wait folks, nearly 3 years, why so long? |
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 02, 2009 7:29 am) http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2009/112_0904_2011_honda_crz/index.- html If the facts are correct might be worth the wait?
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Replying to: englishpete (Feb 17, 2009 1:00 pm) "CVT is fine for the market, mostly. But we are Honda! We must have a manual!" I could really get into this little car if they build it with a stick. I am sure the 1.8L won't make 140 hp in the CRZ, as that is its power rating in the Civic gasser and they always detune them for added fuel economy in the IMA versions. But at 2800 pounds, if it had 140 hp total (including the electric assist) that would be fun anyway. More important to me would be the handling package - none of that LRR-tires-and-eliminate-the-rear-sway philosophy to reduce weight and add mpgs will be acceptable! I find it truly bizarre that Honda still plans on going ahead with a hybrid Fit, given that the Insight is a hybrid Fit in all but name already. And I'm still on pins and needles, as I have found that MT is usually the least accurate of all the magazines with its prognostications... :-/
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