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Future Vehicles 2010 Honda CR-Z
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According to Automotive News, Honda has cancelled plans for a drop top version of the CR-Z.
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 06, 2009 7:25 pm)  Give us a gas version, Honda! Give it the 1.5 from the Fit with a 6-speed manual, geared for gas savings if you must. But don't make it auto-only, whatever you do. |
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I prefer a 5-speed manual to a 6-speed. Five speeds are sufficient if the gears are properly spaced. For my driving, I don't need close ratios, making the sixth gear superfluous. Six speeds is okay for an automatic. I, too, would like to see a gasoline only version of the CR-Z, and if the convertible has been nixed, then how about a coupe? |
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Mr. Honda weather it be UK or US is playing this close to the chest, clever marketing or maybe they don’t know, Will they give their customers what they want or will they give us what they think we would like that’s the question. At the end of the day it’s a Japanese decision and some times they do strange things. There is no fun in a car that has the most unresponsive gearbox (like in the presant Civic Hybrid and will be in the new Insight) even with the best engine in the world. If this is to be a hybrid then I think this type of gearbox will be part of it, that way the engine revs are at the optimal revs for acceleration and de-acceleration for the hybrid drive (discharging and recharging). Would you design a sporty body like the CRZ then take away? By then making the transmission un-sporty? I hope not. If the CRZ is on the Civic chassis as must be the Insight then there are options for different engines and transmissions. Hope some thing will come to light when the Insight goes on sale in May till then I don’t think we will hear much.
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Replying to: englishpete (Jan 11, 2009 11:51 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 12, 2009 7:53 am) Think this would be bad news for Honda if they did. If demand is falling the last thing to do is to cut the potential for new growth they should bring things forward so as to steel a march on their competitors This vehicle has been in the making for the last two years now, it has the history of the CRX to live up to; delay would be a big mistake. Time Honda got its finger out and made some positive statement, its beginning to look like indecision or worse. |
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I read that Honda has definitely decided to offer only a hybrid version of this model. I'm disappointed, as I know you are. Like you, the attributes associated with lighter, simpler and cheaper appeal to me. Therefore, I'd like to see the hybrid supplemented by a choice of a 1.3 engine, for economy and a 2.0 Si, for performance. Even better, since I prefer diesels over hybrids, the ideal engine choices, in my view, would be a 1.6 for a nice blend of performance, economy and price, a 2.0 high performance, and a diesel, for economy. Unfortunately, t'aint gonna happen.
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 31, 2009 7:11 am) Honda seems to be missing a point here, what’s the first thing that attracts you to a car? Like a woman its looks, no good if you look under the hood to find it the engine reminds you of your grandmother, yes we all want economy but you want power to, if V W can produce the Blue Sport with a 2Lt diesel engine doing 50 to the gallon and 140 mph I am sure Mr. Honda can fit one of its diesel engines and still get good economy. The other thing to bear in mind is the with any vehicle that has these batteries that at some point in its life they will have to be replaced at great cost, this will greatly affect the cars second hand price. |
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 31, 2009 7:11 am) At TOV all the enthusiasts are talking about how the days of Honda as we knew it are over, and soon it will just be a pale imitation of Toyota. I sure hope not.
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It IS beginning to sound like the CRZ will be nothing more than a reshaped 3-door Insight, in which case my interest in it will end post-haste. Is it too much for me to hold out hope that it might have a stick and low weight? Low weight was a specific design goal for this model, from what Honda published on it before. Low weight and hybrid don't usually go together, but heck, the Insight with 5 doors is only going to weigh around 2725. Could they get the CRZ under 2500? I think it's a possibility. If they could get it under the 2500-pound threshold and offer it with a stick, I wouldn't mind that it was a hybrid. Indeed, I would welcome the fuel economy.
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