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#27 of 78 Re: oh crap! [englishpete] by nippononly Dec 15, 2008 (12:34 pm)
Replying to: englishpete (Dec 10, 2008 10:00 am) Well if we end up with a CRZ that looks a lot like the OSM concept, I will be quite pleased.   When it comes to engine offerings, I suspect that the info we get from Europe won't have a lot of bearing on what we get in the States. American Honda has a lot to do with that, and they won't be pushing very hard for manuals or diesels, I'm sure.   If we are really lucky we will get a hybrid and a non-hybrid for engines, and a manual option at least on the sportiest trim. At least that would be my guess. Replies to this message: englishpete (Dec 16, 2008 4:44 pm)
#28 of 78 Re: oh crap! [nippononly] by englishpete Dec 16, 2008 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Dec 15, 2008 12:34 pm) Well time will tell, hope that Honda pulls all the stops out on this one, I would like the 2.2 Diesel with a 6 speed manual box or the 2lt R type both should go like hell. Will post more when i have more to tell.
#29 of 78 Convertible Cancelled by hpmctorque Jan 06, 2009 (7:25 pm)
According to Automotive News, Honda has cancelled plans for a drop top version of the CR-Z. Replies to this message: nippononly (Jan 06, 2009 10:14 pm)
#30 of 78 Re: Convertible Cancelled [hpmctorque] by nippononly Jan 06, 2009 (10:14 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 06, 2009 7:25 pm) Yes, and apparently they are still very gung-ho for hybrids, even as practically everything else in the pipeline gets cancelled. My hopes are fading that there will be anything but a hybrid, automatic CRZ offered.   Give us a gas version, Honda! Give it the 1.5 from the Fit with a 6-speed manual, geared for gas savings if you must. But don't make it auto-only, whatever you do.
#31 of 78 Re: Convertible Cancelled [nippononly] by hpmctorque Jan 08, 2009 (10:58 am)
I prefer a 5-speed manual to a 6-speed. Five speeds are sufficient if the gears are properly spaced. For my driving, I don't need close ratios, making the sixth gear superfluous.   Six speeds is okay for an automatic.   I, too, would like to see a gasoline only version of the CR-Z, and if the convertible has been nixed, then how about a coupe?
#32 of 78 Will Honda get it right by englishpete Jan 11, 2009 (11:51 am)
Mr. Honda weather it be UK or US is playing this close to the chest, clever marketing or maybe they don’t know, Will they give their customers what they want or will they give us what they think we would like that’s the question. At the end of the day it’s a Japanese decision and some times they do strange things. There is no fun in a car that has the most unresponsive gearbox (like in the presant Civic Hybrid and will be in the new Insight) even with the best engine in the world. If this is to be a hybrid then I think this type of gearbox will be part of it, that way the engine revs are at the optimal revs for acceleration and de-acceleration for the hybrid drive (discharging and recharging). Would you design a sporty body like the CRZ then take away? By then making the transmission un-sporty? I hope not. If the CRZ is on the Civic chassis as must be the Insight then there are options for different engines and transmissions. Hope some thing will come to light when the Insight goes on sale in May till then I don’t think we will hear much. Replies to this message: nippononly (Jan 12, 2009 7:53 am) englishpete (Jan 12, 2009 2:34 pm)
#33 of 78 Re: Will Honda get it right [englishpete] by nippononly Jan 12, 2009 (7:53 am)
Replying to: englishpete (Jan 11, 2009 11:51 am) I heard that the Insight will go on sale on Earth Day, which is in April. I just hope they don't delay the debut of the CRZ because of all this bad economic stuff going on right now. As you say, it is probably based on the Civic platform making costs incremental, and I suppose most of the development has already been completed, so I am keeping my fingers crossed that it will arrive on schedule, in which case we will probably hear some new specifics about it by the end of this summer. Replies to this message: englishpete (Jan 12, 2009 2:34 pm)
#34 of 78 Re: Will Honda get it right [nippononly] by englishpete Jan 12, 2009 (2:34 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Jan 12, 2009 7:53 am) Don’t know if the release date will be different in the UK to the US but here it’s May for the Insight, I to wonder if the presant economical climate will put things back. Think this would be bad news for Honda if they did. If demand is falling the last thing to do is to cut the potential for new growth they should bring things forward so as to steel a march on their competitors This vehicle has been in the making for the last two years now, it has the history of the CRX to live up to; delay would be a big mistake. Time Honda got its finger out and made some positive statement, its beginning to look like indecision or worse.
#35 of 78 Re: Will Honda get it right [nippononly] by hpmctorque Jan 31, 2009 (7:11 am)
I read that Honda has definitely decided to offer only a hybrid version of this model. I'm disappointed, as I know you are. Like you, the attributes associated with lighter, simpler and cheaper appeal to me. Therefore, I'd like to see the hybrid supplemented by a choice of a 1.3 engine, for economy and a 2.0 Si, for performance. Even better, since I prefer diesels over hybrids, the ideal engine choices, in my view, would be a 1.6 for a nice blend of performance, economy and price, a 2.0 high performance, and a diesel, for economy.   Unfortunately, t'aint gonna happen. Replies to this message: englishpete (Jan 31, 2009 3:55 pm) nippononly (Feb 01, 2009 1:39 pm) englishpete (Feb 02, 2009 3:57 pm)
#36 of 78 Re: Will Honda get it right [hpmctorque] by englishpete Jan 31, 2009 (3:55 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 31, 2009 7:11 am) Yes you’re right disappointing but like you kind of guessed that is what would happen. If you read the right ups for the Insight the MPG is not that good and has been upstaged by Toyota but not the performance. Honda seems to be missing a point here, what’s the first thing that attracts you to a car? Like a woman its looks, no good if you look under the hood to find it the engine reminds you of your grandmother, yes we all want economy but you want power to, if V W can produce the Blue Sport with a 2Lt diesel engine doing 50 to the gallon and 140 mph I am sure Mr. Honda can fit one of its diesel engines and still get good economy. The other thing to bear in mind is the with any vehicle that has these batteries that at some point in its life they will have to be replaced at great cost, this will greatly affect the cars second hand price.

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