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Future Vehicles 2010 Honda CR-Z
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Replying to: dweiser (Nov 05, 2008 6:30 pm) The powertrain currently makes 40/45 in the Civic, but of course that car weighs hundreds and hundreds of pounds more than the weight they are targeting for the CRZ. With all those pounds shed, CRZ could probably rely more of the time on the electrics and burn less gas as a result. |
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Honda Motor Co. plans to launch a hybrid CR-Z sporty sedan for the 2011 model year. Dealers have asked Honda to produce a gasoline-powered version as well. Honda is considering a gasoline version, says Dan Bonawitz, vice president of automobile corporate planning and logistics for American Honda Motor Co. But he was not enthusiastic. I don't mind if the CRZ is only sold as a hybrid, but I'm afraid that if it is going to use the same IMA powertrain as the current Civic, as has been rumored, there will be no manual version. How can they sell a sport coupe without a stick shift? Skip the gasoline model if you must, Honda, but whatever you do don't skip the manual!! http://cnet.nytimes.com/8301-13746_7-10106571-48.html
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 24, 2008 10:08 pm)
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Replying to: englishpete (Dec 06, 2008 3:23 pm) In which case my interest in it would be at an end. 
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 08, 2008 1:11 pm) Honda can make or break the CRZ by not doing things like not putting in a manual gear box or putting smaller wheels on it and by sticking the new Insight dash and seating in. Have a nasty feeling that what we see now will not materialize and we will end up with a two door sporty Insight in which case time to find something better for your next new car. Let’s hope Honda read these blog’s and that Honda is the power of dreams and not just wishful thinking.
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Replying to: englishpete (Dec 09, 2008 4:19 pm) Now the original Insight also had IMA, but it had a stick. And folks have said it was actually fairly fun once you put proper rolling stock on it (space in the wheel wells was a limiting factor due to the tiny size of the stock rims) and bigger sway bars front and back, and removed the silly air dams covering the rear wheels. That IMA powertrain had a smaller engine than the current Civic hybrid does. Rebuild the 2000 Insight, with the bigger motor, the proper chassis upgrades, and the stick it had before as at least an option, and you could really be TALKING. Of course, the original Insight was made entirely of aluminum or something, which would be impossible this time around, so keeping weight down will be the crucial challenge.
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 09, 2008 8:51 pm) Better still would be the OSM shown at the UK motor show this year this is a real stunner but I think this is the fore runner for the replacement S2000 and that’s a long way off, I could be wrong and it turns out to be a CRZ convertible (but there I go again dreaming). The IMA system is a sound idea as long as its matches the power out put of the gas engine by at least 25/30% that would give a 1.5 or 1.6 power unit quiet some kick but if the end of the day it looks naff what’s the point? No it has to have a conventional manual gear change for me, if Honda does not make the grade with the CRZ then I think it will be a Audi TT for me. Here is a report on the CRZ done by Auto express (.co.uk) in July. By Dan Strong July 2008 Thinking about buying a compact coupé? You might want to wait for this... It’s Honda’s stunning new CR-Z. This week, the company announced that the car will go on sale in 2010. To find out what we can expect, Auto Express caught up with it in more detail at an exclusive photoshoot. The coupé is a modern interpretation of the original CR-X – but with a bold nose and recessed headlamps inspired by the very latest designs from Honda’s new-car line-up. Yet it promises to be more than a pretty face – under the skin is an advanced hybrid engine. Although the firm remains tight-lipped about the exact nature of the unit, our sources report that it will be tuned for performance. It’s also likely to be based on Honda’s latest-generation i-VTEC technology, making this the world’s highest-revving engine to be used with an electric motor. Expected to use the chassis developed for the Japanese Civic, the car will get all-round independent suspension and the latest platform technology. Utilising such a chassis should also allow engineers to fit Honda’s new 2.2-litre diesel, as well as the 2.0 petrol engine currently in the Civic Type R. FIRST OPINION With sales of the CR-Z tipped to start in less than 18 months’ time, it’s clear coupé drivers face some hard decisions about how they spend their money in a hotly contested market. Honda’s hybrid expertise means the newcomer is sure to excite on the road. More than that, though, it will set a fresh benchmark for hybrid vehicles – proving these engines can offer much more than refinement and fuel economy. AT A GLANCE Engine: 1.6-litre hybrid Power: 200bhp (est) 0-60mph: 7.0 seconds (est) Standard equipment: Petrol-electric hybrid engine, electric windows, automatic cruise control, collision mitigation braking system, air-conditioning Economy: 45mpg (est) Price: £21,000 (est)
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here is more for you to paw over from infosoldier . com Production Honda CR-Z hybrid coupe to hit Europe first Filed under: Coupes, Hybrids/Alternative, Euro, Green, HondaClick above to view high-res gallery of the Honda CR-Z ConceptMore news from the front lines of Honda's hybrid offensive. Honda CEO Takeo Fukui revealed in January that a production hybrid based on the CR-Z Concept shown in Tokyo last year was on its way. Looks like Europeans will be the first to partake of the spiritual successor to the much missed CR-X when it goes on sale there first around the end of the decade. The original CR-X was a small, lightweight hatchback that by virtue of its size was a fun car despite its small, efficient engine. Likewise, we expect the production CR-Z coupe to be small, fun and efficient, but this time utilize Honda's updated Integrated Motor Assist hybrid system to make it happen. Honda UK manager of product planning Mark Turner told Automotive News Europe that the production CR-Z hybrid would be priced around €25,000, with a high-end model cresting €28,000. Since Europe will be the car's most important market, Honda UK will have a voice in the car's development, including its design. Engineering for the car is also being carried out at Honda's R&D facility in Germany. Turner added that a gasoline version of the CR-Z would be considered if there were demand for it. The CR-Z will join Honda's upcoming ground-up global hybrid, as well as a new Civic Hybrid, in late 2009 or early 2010. If Honda hopes to sell half a million hybrids by 2011 like it claims, expect all three to also be available in the United States.Gallery: Honda CR-Z Concept[Source: Automotive News Europe, sub. req'd, Photo by Koichi Kamoshida/Getty] Permalink | Email this | Comments |
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Replying to: englishpete (Dec 10, 2008 10:00 am)  When it comes to engine offerings, I suspect that the info we get from Europe won't have a lot of bearing on what we get in the States. American Honda has a lot to do with that, and they won't be pushing very hard for manuals or diesels, I'm sure. If we are really lucky we will get a hybrid and a non-hybrid for engines, and a manual option at least on the sportiest trim. At least that would be my guess.
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