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2010 Honda CR-Z

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Re: From Today's Detroit Free Press... [biker4] by aspesisteve
Jul 22, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: biker4 (May 24, 2008 2:47 am)

i'm not sure how diesel plays into the part about being green
 
while diesel has gotten cleaner over the years, it's still alot dirtier than the ULEV cars that Honda offers today. Try going for a run in France and you're lungs will tell you diesel sucks.
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I'm sure by nippononly
Jul 22, 2008 (4:53 pm)
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there won't be a diesel version of the CRZ. They will go hybrid instead with this one. They are saving the diesels for their larger models.
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So Honda by nippononly
Jul 31, 2008 (5:20 pm)
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had its "OSM" concept car on display at the London auto show, which looks to be closely related to the CRZ, only the convertible version of it.
 
This car looks really nice. Here's an article that has some good pics of the OSM, as well as some of the CRZ:
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/latest_news_reviews/h- - onda_osm_concept_car_news+view-photos.html
 
One other thing: whenever Honda makes new mention of this car, they talk about how "eco-friendly" its powertrain will be. Hopefully it is nice and low in weight when it finally arrives, then a small hybrid powertrain would be perfectly adequate, and 50 mpg might be in order (dare I hope)!
 
Edit...here's the link to the short article that went with the photos:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/latest_news_reviews/h- onda_osm_concept_car_news
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Re: From Today's Detroit Free Press... [aspesisteve] by biker4
Aug 02, 2008 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jul 22, 2008 12:47 pm)

Try going for a run in France and you're lungs will tell you diesel sucks.
Actually, I have, and my lungs say different.
 
The diesels of today are not any dirtier than ULEV cars - they can't be, they have to meet the same emission rules as gassers. This is why so many diesels were delayed in the US market - to get them ready for ULSD (introed 10/07) and lower emission rules.
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Honda continues by nippononly
Oct 08, 2008 (11:35 am)
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to announce upcoming release of the CRZ, so despite a dearth of specifics on any of the specs and recent news on this model of any kind, it seems it is still in the works for U.S. release next year. The latest mention of it came at the Paris auto show last week when they showed the new Insight:
 
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/10/honda-reveals-i.html
 
Honda also plans for upcoming launches of a new sporty hybrid based on the CRZ and a Jazz Hybrid...
 
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=792284
 
The Paris stand will also see the CR-Z, a small sports concept car, which shows Honda's future direction of offering small petrol electric hybrids across a number of niches, in order to broaden their appeal. The CR-Z will form the basis of a new small coupe hybrid that will join the growing Honda hybrid line-up and further broaden the appeal of low CO2 vehicles. The sporty 2+2 uses the split level glass rear window, which has been used through three decades in the CR-X, the original Insight coupe and more recently the Civic 3 and 5-door.
 
I hope they don't introduce the CRZ ONLY with a hybrid powertrain. If they make it light enough they could also plug in the powertrain from the Fit, and it should be able to exceed Fit's fuel economy just running on gas.
 
I wonder if the debut date for the CRZ will slip back now that the economy has taken such a turn for the worse. I know they are holding firm to the April '09 release date for the Insight. The original indication was that the CRZ would be released Fall '09. I see that nowhere at the Paris show were they talking dates for the release of the CRZ.
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Very interested in the CR-Z Hybrid by dweiser
Nov 05, 2008 (6:30 pm)
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I'm German and I'd replace the Porsche Boxster (which I like) in my garage with the Honda CR-Z in a heartbeat.
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Re: Very interested in the CR-Z Hybrid [dweiser] by nippononly
Nov 05, 2008 (10:48 pm)
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Replying to: dweiser (Nov 05, 2008 6:30 pm)

With its very light weight, I'm sure the CRZ hybrid will do better than 50 mpg combined, even under the new EPA testing regimen. I would hope for 60 mpg, but would I be hoping for too much?
 
The powertrain currently makes 40/45 in the Civic, but of course that car weighs hundreds and hundreds of pounds more than the weight they are targeting for the CRZ. With all those pounds shed, CRZ could probably rely more of the time on the electrics and burn less gas as a result.
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oh crap! by nippononly
Nov 24, 2008 (10:08 pm)
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Honda Motor Co. plans to launch a hybrid CR-Z sporty sedan for the 2011 model year. Dealers have asked Honda to produce a gasoline-powered version as well.
 
Honda is considering a gasoline version, says Dan Bonawitz, vice president of automobile corporate planning and logistics for American Honda Motor Co. But he was not enthusiastic.

 
I don't mind if the CRZ is only sold as a hybrid, but I'm afraid that if it is going to use the same IMA powertrain as the current Civic, as has been rumored, there will be no manual version. How can they sell a sport coupe without a stick shift?
 
Skip the gasoline model if you must, Honda, but whatever you do don't skip the manual!!
 
http://cnet.nytimes.com/8301-13746_7-10106571-48.html
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Re: oh crap! [nippononly] by englishpete
Dec 06, 2008 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 24, 2008 10:08 pm)

In the uk we are getting different messages for the CRZ, one dealer has told me that the CRZ will be released in Europe first one year ahead of the US market. I have also been informed that it will have a 1.5 high torque IMA power unit and will do 0 to 60 in 5.7 seconds. There are also roomers of a synchronous gear box with paddle change. This I am told it will be 2009/10 after the launch of the insight. I hope Honda doesn’t fudge the looks of this car when it goes into production they have a winner here so don’t throw it away Mr. Honda.

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