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#14 of 19 Re: 2007 Outlander LS TPMS observations and question [steve_] by comem47 Jan 02, 2009 (1:44 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Jan 02, 2009 1:16 pm) But the key to lower priced sensors is getting your local place to install them for you because they'd rather install their own at jacked up prices. I was able to buy an OBDII scanner for my wife's Durango and my Dakota for $50 when we owned them and successfully diagnosed and purchased the correct upstream and downstream O2 sensors cheaply at separate times when the time came for each and precheck that I'd pass emissions and not have a gun to my head to get through Inspection. I don't have access to a tire machine or $2500 TMPS scanner so I'm forced to pay the piper when the time comes to meet a GOV standard that mostly benefits the tire shop/dealers. Over my 35 plus years of driving I've only destroyed a few tires (forced to drive off an unsafe highway and a sidewall cut---both I was very aware of without TPMS and TPMS wouldn't have saved nothing). I've had many other slow leaks that I've always caught by eye in time to fix. Just don't see the rewards to the forced cost that was decided for me.(It should have been optional, not mandated and.If it doesn't work you won't pass inspection until it does even if the tires are all inflated correctly and it's a sensor or circuit problem) I've seen too many times where people are told the Field Replaceable Module is the whole PCM asm at many hundreds of $$.
#15 of 19 Re: 2007 Outlander LS TPMS observations and question [comem47] by solowalker Jan 05, 2009 (12:40 pm)
Replying to: comem47 (Jan 02, 2009 11:13 am) I just bought 4 new 225/60/18 Yokohama YK520's for my 2007 XLS at Discount tire this morn....They charged me $8 for the TMPS sensor rebuild kits like you said.....There was no need to reprogram the sensors. Sensor batteries were fine ....... All systems are GO...   PS...I only got 27,000 miles to the wear bars on the OEM Goodyear LS's...They were GOOD for a little over a year... .hence, the name.. :
#16 of 19 Mitsubishi Outlander V6 facts: TPMS by batman47 Jan 08, 2009 (4:22 pm)
I am the fellow that drove a brand new Outlander XLS V6 2008 to Deadhorse in Alaska. After having a traffic accident in Edmonton, Canada I managed to get my USA insurance to pay for the repairs (It took 2-months). The rear alloy was a little damaged and a new alloy (7-spoke) was bought + other spare parts. The Mitsubishi technician re-set this new wheel in order to eliminate the “warning message” in the control facia.   Now I am in Panama (Central America) to ship the Outlander to South America and the car has 24K miles. I changed the stock tires (Goodyear 225/55R18) for Yokohama YK520 (225/55R18) after 16K miles. In Panama I got a cut (2”) on the side of the rear passenger tire that made it unusable. I took off this wheel and replaced with the “little damaged” alloy (from Edmonton) and then this annoying warning message icon “tire needs service” appeared on the information screen.   After looking for 2-weeks for an equivalent 225/55R18 I gave up (There are no tires 225/55R18 in Panama). A Mitsubishi dealer told me (In spite he is selling Outlanders with wheels 18”) that it will take 2 weeks to get me the Goodyear 225/55R18 from El Salvador. In the mean time the car was with the “little damaged” alloy from Edmonton. So I went to a Toyota dealer in Panama City and after some deliberation I agreed to buy a set of 2-tires Yokohama Geolandar G91A (Stock for the RAV V6) which is 235/55R18. I thought that after putting the new tire on the alloy that was working OK before the side cut the warning message “Tire Need Service” would go. Not at all. It is still there to my annoyance. Will somebody give some rational reasons what is going on?   Before the cut on the side of the rear tire I rotated the tires according to direction on the owner’s manual and everything was OK. It appears that if a tire manages to become fully flat this wheel/tire needs to be re-set again and because I cannot have the software and the connections for re-setting the car’s computer I am obliged to look for a Mitsubishi dealer to do the job. However, I was told in Panama that all Mitsubishi cars in this country the wheels do not have a TPMS and therefore there is no need for special software.   Is there a way to disable this TPMS for the time being until I returned to the USA? By the way the Outlander XLS V6 so far I may say the car, in spite of all the bump and speed humps along the way, is still very good.   Any help much appreciated. Replies to this message: comem47 (Jan 09, 2009 9:47 am) batman47 (Nov 01, 2009 5:31 am) comem47 (Nov 01, 2009 8:46 am)
#17 of 19 Re: Mitsubishi Outlander V6 facts: TPMS [batman47] by comem47 Jan 09, 2009 (9:47 am)
Replying to: batman47 (Jan 08, 2009 4:22 pm) I think the problems you are having are due to slightly different rotational speeds of front vs rear. The very problem you are having is what I originally posted my objection to TPMS being mandatory in the US. You already know about the tire difference and have taken action. Now you are forced to live with an annoying and persistent warning about it.   I know, stupid me, we all need to be protected from ourselves and pay accordingly because of the lowest common denominator in intelligence. Oh how did we ever live without this?   It's one thing to slap your wrist about a fault, but another thing that the user can't reset or disable it on their own once acknowledged. (vs hunting down a Mitsu dealer to do this $$)     Replies to this message: batman47 (Nov 01, 2009 5:31 am) comem47 (Nov 01, 2009 8:46 am)
#18 of 19 Re: Mitsubishi Outlander V6 facts: TPMS [comem47] by batman47 Nov 01, 2009 (5:31 am)
Replying to: comem47 (Jan 09, 2009 9:47 am) TPMS information in the ETACS-ECU is just for 4-wheels. The information for the original 4-wheels is stored in the vehicle computer memory. When another wheel replaces any of these 4-original wheels, then the warning message will appear in the instrumentation cluster. I think this is also valid when the original spare tire replaces any of the normal size tires. The message will be there all the time until the original wheel returns to its place. I bought a full size alloy wheel the same as the original including its tire/rubber. I got a very bad cut in one of the original tires a few months after. I replaced the cut tire with the wheel/tire that I had bought some time ago (instead of the proper spare tire) and the message appeared in the cluster. The message only disappeared when I put back the original alloy wheel tire with a new rubber. I was told by the dealer that the vehicle computer will recognize only the wheel ID numbers that have been already stored in the computer memory and it will only recognize 4 wheels. Replies to this message: comem47 (Nov 01, 2009 8:46 am)
#19 of 19 Re: Mitsubishi Outlander V6 facts: TPMS [batman47] by comem47 Nov 01, 2009 (8:46 am)
Replying to: batman47 (Nov 01, 2009 5:31 am) Don't you just love how they are forcing you more and more to pay for service that you don't really need. I've always inspected my tires and don't need a computer to tell me one is going down. When you go to get new tires mounted and balanced the man gets to hold out his hand and ask for more. I'm beginning to think my only purpose is to open my wallet wide so that others can profit. (lobbyists at their worst) It's not really for our benefit, rather theirs:   http://tirereview.com/Article/59497/selling_safety_tpms_valve_stems_and_service_- more_than_just_good_business.aspx

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