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27 messages, Last post on Oct 16, 2009 at 10:51 AM
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Replying to: british_rover (Sep 29, 2009 1:59 pm) Please do so responding to the post initiating the topic rather than my response to said post Please do so responding to the post initiating the topic rather than my response to said post: link to initiating post is here. Click! |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 29, 2009 1:03 pm) the thousands of bureacrats it will add and the layers that costs will be much greater than it is now. 40+million Americans have no insurance. Many who do have plans find it almost impossible to collect. Hope you get a good HMO. I am not saying whether our universal plan is better or yours. If given a choice I would take our plan, no need to think it over. I would guess 98% of Canadians would agree. Sorry BR, this is the last post for me on the subject. I wanted to respond to imidazol.Two things though, first a post that is a little flexible is a livelier post and has a better chance of surviving, and two, to get cars in here, one reason many car plants are in Canada is because the workers are covered by our health plan......in other words not an expense for the manufacturer.
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Replying to: driver100 (Sep 29, 2009 3:00 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Sep 29, 2009 3:04 pm) I shortened my reply, because it would be rude not to reply. I promise I will get back on track. Driver
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Replying to: driver100 (Sep 29, 2009 3:15 pm) Talk's cheap. Some of us actually bought cars and told our sales tale here. We're waiting.  jmonroe
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Replying to: jmonroe (Sep 29, 2009 5:14 pm) Talk's cheap. Some of us actually bought cars and told our sales tale here. We're waiting. Well, in October of 2007 I bought 2 2008 cars within a few days, so that's it for me for awhile.............unless they become real  s Guess I better check out the politics/health sights for awhile. 
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 29, 2009 1:03 pm) 
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Having many friends living outside the U.S., I do get a fair amount of feedback on their health issues and how they are handled. It's my feeling that aside from the punishing cost of health care in America (it is predicted that at the current rates of increase, your family of 4 will pay about $24,000 a year in health costs in the year 2020--in terms of today's dollars). the biggest problem with US healthcare is the utter unfairness of it. Often the hardest workers, the most deserving, the most needy, are utterly abandoned by the system, or if not that, wiped out and made indigent by it. This, more than worrying about whether our heart transplants are niftier and slicker than France's, is the real issue IMO. It is under these criteria that America deserves its rank as 37th in terms of the quality of health care (we are just below Slovenia, as determined by the World Health Organization). |
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My mom's experience with Medicare has mostly been good, although she liked her other Rx plan a bit better before they came out with the Part D changes. She also had a supplemental policy that was handy when she had a stroke a decade ago and spent 6 or so weeks in rehab. So, has anyone suggested moving the qualifying date back so that starting on Jan. 1, it kicks in for those 60 and older? As money permits, keep popping the start date back another 5 years. The bureaucracy is already in place to handle the payments. Medicaid requirements could be broadened for those younger folks otherwise not eligible who are facing foreclosure or bankruptcy, rather like a high deductible plan does now. To keep people from abusing the ER, flat rate and subsidize the doc-in-the-box type clinics to encourage people to try to stay healthy in the first place.
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 30, 2009 11:28 am) It is true that for elective surgery you have to wait. I do not have statistics on whether that wait is longer than those in the US with HMOs that sometimes do hold up procedures as well. If you need emergency care - like a bypass operation the Canadian system can be very quick indeed. I know beneficiaries of such things. I've known people to cross the border both ways depending on the issue. |
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