Last post on Jul 17, 2009 at 5:25 AM
You are in the BMW X6
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BMW X6, Car Comparisons, SUV
#77 of 118 Re: Delay?? [cntrad]
May 28, 2008 (8:53 am)
Is it true that the V8 version release has been delayed several months??? Are they having problems with this model already? I'm half interested in the V8 model, but I'm beginning to think this would be a bad move.
The Turbo 8 will be released with the 2009 model year X6 vehicles. This was planned. The engine is not delayed because it is "having problems" according to people I know at the BMW center in Spartanburg. It is true that the Turbo 8 will be a new engine and it will appear in the X6 and the new 7 series first, as has been reported many times over the past few months.
#78 of 118 FX 35 is 30k less
Jun 12, 2008 (7:33 am)
And a better car according to Motor and Truck Trend. Not sure i'd want to be seen in a BMW that bad. I like the idea of this truck after owning a 5000 pound well handling german SUV. and I like BMW's execution but - really - this is for the same people who buy a porchse cayenne for not other reason than to be seen and have no idea what BMW or Porcsche puts into thier cars. My family includes these types - they buy cars that cost more and offer relatively less. Porsche and BMW love my family. i can't understand them
#79 of 118 Re: First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i [muchkus]
Jun 26, 2008 (11:48 am)
Hi, I am Anjelica.Where do you come from in Russia? I have known a man named "muchkus". Please let me know.Bye
#80 of 118 Re: FX 35 is 30k less [sixfive]
Jun 27, 2008 (6:08 pm)
There's more to the X6 than just the looks. To quote the August '08 Short Take in Car and Driver on the X6 5.0 Xdrive: "This baby also laps the Nurburgring within a couple seconds of the previous-gen (E46) M3." They also said "... we expect it to hang with a 335i to a mid-13-second quarter mile."
The X6 isn't just about looks and styling. Dismissing it as a vehicle that people buy when they just want to be seen in the vehicle and not actually drive the vehicle is an over simplification that appeals to people who don't want to think very much.
#81 of 118 Re: First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i [puaro]
Jun 28, 2008 (4:07 pm)
Hi, Anjelica! I'm reaaaal. I live in Moscow now. Are you the girl who were the 2-nd captain? You like the X6? I'm buying that one, the 4.4 Twin Turbo, used to call Xdrive50
#82 of 118 Re: First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i [muchkus]
Jun 29, 2008 (2:13 am)
Ty deystwitelno iz Kazani ili ya oshibyus? Tebya zwali Ruslan i ty gil naprotiw Hudogestwennogo muzeya? U tebya byla tak ge dacha na Kordone. Esli wse eto deystwitelno k tebe podhodit, to ya ochen rada, chto tebya nashla. U nas teper X5 4.4 - dlya znatokow. Ya giwu w Awstrii. Day mne znat, esli ty deystwitelno TY.
#83 of 118 Re: FX 35 is 30k less [anon3]
Jul 01, 2008 (8:26 am)
The X6 is a niche vehicle, and it won't appeal to everybody. I doubt BMW is planning on making this a vehicle a volume selling priority.
When this vehicle was planned 3 years ago, premium gas wasn't nearly $5 a gallon in the US.
Even if you have the money, the X6 will have limited appeal in the future. The people that really want one and think it's cool will keep it viable for the 1st 6 month to a year. But after that, you have to keep customers coming when the "newness" factor wears off on a vehicle. You've gotta turn fringe shoppers into buyers for long term success.
People still spend money on things that don't make sense. Land Rover has done quite well with the Sport. A very expensive 65k vehicle that's the size of a Ford Escape on the inside, and guzzles gas at an alarming rate.
I'm sure the X6 will thrive for a while, but I wouldn't be surprised if this vehicle doesn't make it 5 or 6 years down the road. Especially if fuel prices are $6-7 gallon in the US 2 years from now.
BMW financial posted a 300 million dollar loss this year with high residual leases coming back to bite them. They can't afford to subsidize cars like they did in the past with crazy high residuals to keep payments ridiculously low for US customers.
#84 of 118 X6 was also outgunned in another Mag
Jul 03, 2008 (5:07 am)
by an Infiniti FX that costs $10-$15 grand less and weighs 600-700 #'s less. I'm sure they can stuff a turbo 6 into anything and make it faster than an old m3. I'm sure it drives well for what it is - as I said it's a BMW and it means something.
The question is why is bMW doing this? Why does the company who thrives on cutting excess weight and putting nimble machines on the road and that lives by a reputation and impeccible brand image building a tank? It looks cool now but like many bangled cars, will have an accelerated life cycle and look dowdy before long. It makes no sense in todays oil price environment. But it will still sell to folks who know nothing about BMWness and want to show up in a BMW. (note generalization taking place- Of course somewhere a true lover of fine auto's will get suckered)
"Dismissing it as a vehicle that people buy when they just want to be seen in the vehicle and not actually drive the vehicle is an over simplification that appeals to people who don't want to think very much. "
I dismiss it because it's a pig. I could care less how it drives if it's 800 pounds of extra weight to carry nothing. At least the toaureg/cayenne could off road and hold some stuff to justify it's 5000 pound mass. So while I was lazing my mind into simple concluisions about a car I never will be in the market for nor find having any appeal, I also noticed the fakes in my family loving how big the grill was. While BMW owners are not all like my relatives, I can't see the real enthusiast driver or BMW enthusiast buying a iron pig. But maybe I'm too optimistic.
I dismiss the Porcshe v-6 Cayenne as well becasue it's ridiculous to pay 25k more for a car that you can get with a people's car badge with the same motor and underpinnings. At least that family member admits thier mistake and after driving our new Murano, unfortunately they feel awful about their 35 months of remaining 800 dollar payments. I would be bummed too. Our VW was way more comfy and luxurious. I guess my perspective would indicate a preference toward value. My predisposition comes from my profession.
I cracked up when my sister in law's 5 series was in her driveway for 3 years and she never tried the nav or the i-drive. Too scary she said. She wanted to get the payment to a huge number so she could tell everyone what it was and we could be impressed. She's perfect for the x drive and her lease is up..I can see where this is going...
#85 of 118 Re: First Look: 2009 BMW X6 xDrive50i [puaro]
Jul 08, 2008 (7:42 pm)
Ty deystwitelno iz Kazani ili ya oshibyus? Tebya zwali Ruslan i ty gil naprotiw Hudogestwennogo muzeya? U tebya byla tak ge dacha na Kordone. Esli wse eto deystwitelno k tebe podhodit, to ya ochen rada, chto tebya nashla. U nas teper X5 4.4 - dlya znatokow. Ya giwu w Awstrii. Day mne znat, esli ty deystwitelno TY."
#86 of 118 Re: Delay?? [anon3]
Jul 12, 2008 (2:02 pm)
First of all thank you for all the replys.
Unfortunately, the test drive did not include a visit to a test track. It felt "quick enough", but as you would expect, you have to push a heavier vehicle harder and run it at higher RPM to get top performance... much more so than in the lighter, smaller 3 or 5 series with the same engine.
Did you feel it was quicker than the x5 4.8 v8?
Got your v8 delivery yet?
What color did you choose?
I've read many negative posts about bmws and the especially the x5.
You are the only 1 who has driven so many bmws with all positive feed backs.