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#34 of 68 2004 Pilot with shuddering problem
Jan 03, 2012 (9:24 am)
I purchased my 04 Pilot three years ago with 75k miles, now it has 110k. My shuddering is infrequent put definitely present. I change the ATF myself and it seems to make the shuddering go away for a year. Changing the ATF is almost as easy as changing the oil. I use only the Honda ATF fluid. Note that you only get 3.2 quarts out of the total 8 quarts. So you need to change it more than once if you want to get "mostly" new fluid in. There are plenty of youtube videos to show you how. My pilot has the tranny oil "fix", so I don't even have to take the tranny filler bolt off. You just need a socket wrench with about two feet of extenders on it to remove the bolt holding the feeder tube in the cap screw, and a very long funnel.
I was hoping to keep my Pilot over 250k miles, but now I worry about the coming $4000 expense. Even so, you lose that much driving a new one off the lot I guess.
#35 of 68 Re: 2004 Pilot with shuddering problem [hokie85ee]
Jan 03, 2012 (11:04 am)
We are on tranny #2 (2005 model) and the shuddering was starting up again. I asked my local mechanic to price a Jasper rebuilt for me and he suggested trying some Instant Shudder Fixx By Dr. Tranny
Now bear in mind I'm licensed mechanical engineer and not one for amazing fix pookie mix fromulas, but I figured I didn't have anything to lose. So far so good. For the current term the shuddering has subsided. I'll try to remember to check in at this forum and give upadates.
#36 of 68 Re: 2004 Pilot with shuddering problem [tobren]
Jan 03, 2012 (11:50 am)
Thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered 4 tubes. You are the second or third person I've seen that recommended it. My 2005 Odyssey has the same shudder symptom. I just changed the ATF in both vehicles over the holidays (3/8 quarts). I will add a tube of Shudder Fix for good measure. I will also update this post periodically.
Electrical Engineer from Va Tech, Go Hokies!
#37 of 68 Re: 2004 Pilot with shuddering problem [hokie85ee]
Jan 27, 2012 (6:51 pm)
Another Victim. I bought a 2004 Pilot with 100K from a used car lot because of past positive experiences with ATV's and an 08 CRV which I bought for my wife. I did not notice any "rumble strip" noise on the test drive but noticed it on the way home after paying 9,000 for the car! I drove it two more times over the weekend and heard the noise at about 40 to 45 mph every time. Needless to say I was pissed. I brought the car back to the used car lot and they would not give me my money back. They said their mechanic needs to look at it before anything happens to determine what the cause is. I already know that it is the torque converter from the Honda Pilot forum and politely explained it and gave them a file full of information. I have not heard back from them but they did say they would try to fix it. I already know that I need to somehow trade it in for another car but I feel bad for the next person who receives it. I am sure there are hundreds of people just like me who are getting ripped off on this torque converter problem that Honda knows about but is sticking it to them anyways even though Acura had a recall on MDX and replaced torque converter. Shame on Honda. I am a loyal Honda customer who has spent a ton of money to Honda and has a daughter in college with one on the way. No family should have to get ripped like this.
Jan 28, 2012 (7:23 pm)
I bought my pilot used with 35,000 miles on it. I noticed the shuttering right away...but it was very faint. Over the years it had gotten worse . Now with 110,000 miles it's very noticeable, but still infrequent . I changed the trans. fluid at 90,000. miles and it helped the shuddering tremendously! I have written in every forum, every website that I can find complaining of this issue. My question to everyone else with this problem is.....Has anyone actually had to have their pilot towed or has this torque or trans. problem (if left going on too long) lead to more damage to the engine ? Thanks
#39 of 68 Re: 2005 Pilot [pilot3026]
Jan 30, 2012 (5:26 am)
so where did you go to get your fluid change? and know I havn't had to have it towed.
#40 of 68 so what are we going to do
Jan 30, 2012 (5:38 am)
so far every one on here has the same problem so what is that tellin you? obviously there's a manufature defect and they know that its going to cost them cause all pilots have them so again what are we going to do?????????????????
#41 of 68 That is a good qustion...
Jan 30, 2012 (6:12 am)
Good question, what are we going to do? I traded in my shuddering pilot for a new CRV for my wife, but I still have my 2008 Pilot. It doesn't shudder, having only 70K on the odometer, and I've been religeous about changing the trans fluid...but I am still uneasy about the possibility of it going bad. I love the vehicle, and it's perfect right now, but can I count on it? That's the big, heart breaking question in my mind at the moment. Obviously Honda Corp. is no help.
#42 of 68 2005 Pilot Torque Converter Shudder
Feb 04, 2012 (8:53 am)
My 05 Pilot with 135,000 miles has had this same condition since about 100k and the dealer I bought from was unable to offer any assistance even though this was my third new car purchase from them. Changing the trans fluid helps so I am gonna run it till it blows up and NOT by another Honda. Thats the best way to show Honda how you feel is tell everyone you know about your experience and never buy one of their products again. This really is bad because I WAS a very loyal Honda customer.
#43 of 68 Honda knows there is a problem
Mar 05, 2012 (8:05 pm)
My 2005 Pilot has always had this "shuttering" problem. My husband was told by a friend not long ago that his friend (whom is a mechanic at Trickett Honda) said there's definately a problem and Honda knows it. Because it's not a "safety" issue Honda's not going to touch it. My question is..do you keep the Pilot and replace the transmission when time comes, or do I trade it in now with 100K while I can get something out of it.....Toyotas looking pretty good!! At least they have needed recalls and stand behind their product!!