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Oct 27, 2010 (4:11 pm)
need some help/answer. I have a 05 pilot and the check engine light and the vtm light comes on. the dealer wanted to charge me $500 to look for the problem and they told me its a hit or miss. I told them to kiss my ass. I took it to a honder mechanic and he told me that its not the transmission I had codes reset several times and now they told me that honda requires a valve adjustment and a gasket need to be change. This is my third honda and beleave me my next car or truck is not going to be a honda product it I have to put the bills. is this problem wide spread and what should I do?
#19 of 68 05 pilot transmission
Oct 31, 2010 (3:07 pm)
I had my 05 pilot valve adjusted thus weekend and all code erase and resett so I will let you all know what happens. so many have tried this already I decided to try anyway. we will see.dont go back to the dealer they will charge you a lot of money and still they wont have an answer for you.
#20 of 68 Re: pilot 05 [trini101]
Jan 01, 2011 (6:51 pm)
I purchased my 04'Honda Pilot in 04'. 1st time something happened was in 06' had to get a new battery, was ok with that, it happens. In 08' my Pilot started to "lull" as I call it. Felt like it wasnt getting gas or shifting into gear, then it died. It would start back up to do the same thing. Took it to the dealer, they replaced a part ( I think a fuel line) - got it back and a couple days later did the same thing. They had to call into American Honda as couldnt figure it out. Ended up being a sensor of some sort that I got covered under warranty. Now in November 10' it started doing the same thing but the VTM and engine light came on. Took to dealer, another sensor & had some motor mounts replaced. Vehicle ready on a Tuesday I picked up, stopped at gas station on way home and guess what, lights on again. Dealer has now had vehicle 4 days again. I am FRUSTRATED! I have always had Hondas - 3 accords ( all with over 130,000 when sold) and this is the 1st time had any major issues with about 79,000 miles.
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Jan 17, 2011 (5:49 pm)
I have a 2003 Honda Pilot that I bought from a dealer in December, 2010. After two weeks of ownership, it was apparent that I had a problem. As described by others, the car would shudder and vibrate between 35 - 40 mph, for a duration of 5 to 10 seconds. The events are intermittant, but present none the less. I took the car to the back to the dealer, and after explaining the issue, they stared at me like I was from Mars. According to them, they have never heard of the issue, which is something that I find hard to believe.
I had the transmission fluid changed, and it came out black as coffee with friction materials present. Since the change, the frequency of the shudder has decreased, however it did not disappear completely. I don't know what to expect, if the transmission is going to fail soon, or if I can get some use out of it before it dies. The car has 127K on it, which in the past meant that it was just getting broken-in. I am begining to wonder if that's a true statement anymore.
I've filed a complaint with NHTSA and printed the Accura SB to take to my dealer. Other than what I have done, does anyone have any advice on further preventive maintenance or steps I could take?
#23 of 68 Re: Vibration/Griding @ 35 to 40 mph [pmarria]
Feb 25, 2011 (6:40 am)
I have the same problem with my 05 pilot. Were did you go for assistance? Did you receive any satisfaction?
Feb 25, 2011 (9:02 am)
While my issue is not completely resolved, it's been reduced by at least 90%. The dealer where I purchased the car was not much help in diagnosing the issue, and just wanted me to throw money at it.
I took it to another dealer, one that I usually work with, and they suggested drain and fill service on the transmission. We discovered the fluid was black as coffee (Apparently the previous owner didn't have the fluid changed in about 100K) and there was some particular material on the drain plug magnet. At the time, they did not recommend a full flush, as that could cause more issues.
Since the drain and fill, my issues have pretty much gone away, with only an occasional burp. Since the noise stops when I place the transmission in D3, I am pretty confident that it is the torque converter that is responsible. Being that the frequency between events has dropped dramatically, I am hopeful that I can get a few more years out of it before needing a new tranny. The pilot has 128K on it right now. I'll probably drain and fill the transmission this summer myself, just to make sure that any particulate matter that is still in there can hopefully be removed.
Hope this helps.
#26 of 68 Re: Acura MDX / Honda Pilot Service Bulletin PDF [kpsmith999]
Sep 03, 2011 (5:08 am)
Dear kpsmith999, Thank you so much for the time you have dedicated to helping Honda Pilot owners with the shuddering between 35-50 mph. I'm not looking forward to the battle with Honda to get the new torque converter cost covered, but I will certainly follow all of your directions. Thanks Again!!!
#27 of 68 Re: Acura MDX / Honda Pilot Service Bulletin PDF [knicely]
Sep 06, 2011 (4:46 am)
Here is an update on my wife's 2005 Honda Pilot from posts back in '08. Same problem as everyone else, shuddering when light pressure is put on the accelerator between 35-45 mph. Earlier posts are on page #1.
We had the transmission changed, rebuilt unit, by the dealership with all work covered under the extended warranty. From memory the new tranny came with something like a 90 day warranty, with rebuilt being the only option. I was told a new transmission just wasn't available. Fortunatley, because we were having the work done under the extended warranty we got a three year warranty on the new (rebuilt) tranny.
So fast forward to 2011 and the problem is creeping back. Everything is out of warranty, so we are SOL. We have 145,000 miles on the vehicle and planned on keeping for at least 250,000 (My 4Runner has 320,000). That's just how we are as a family and why we came back to Honda after runnig away from our 2000 Volvo wagon. So it looks like we are going to wind up spending $2500 - $3000 for a new (rebuilt) trans as everything else about the vehicle is pretty good. Funny thing, my 4Runner is a 1994 model and back just a few years ago I got a safety recall notice in the mail. Imagine that, on a 14 or 15 year old vehicle they were willing to accept responsibilty and fix a potential problem free of charge to me.
Good luck to everyone, doesn't look like there have been enough complaints to warrant Honda coming forward and fixing the problem.