Article Comments - Imagine the 2010 Toyota Prius

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Is the 100-MPG Prius Just a Year Away? - The Toyota Prius has made "hybrid" a household name, a kind of brand that signifies an ecology-friendly future. In fact, the Prius is a brand, not just a car. (more)

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#31 of 50 Re: Any New Photos or Specs on the 2010 Prius..or Any Other Good News? [akg] by timsabin Sep 15, 2008 (7:16 pm)
Replying to: akg (Aug 19, 2008 5:42 am) The first Hydrogen-powered car is out there, but only available in parts of Southern California. Honda's site for the FCX Clarity: http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/ --Tim Sabin Replies to this message: t_wrx (Sep 25, 2008 10:47 am)
#32 of 50 Re: A REAL CAR [longhaultrucke] by t_wrx Sep 24, 2008 (7:35 am)
Replying to: longhaultrucke (Jul 26, 2008 4:57 pm) And I'll laugh as I pass you gas station after gas station. I had a Chevy Silverado 4WD Z71 pick-up. I drive about 70 miles a day in heavy stop & go traffic. The difference between Prius MPG and Chevy MPG pays my Prius car payment. I average 44 MPG in heavy rush hour traffic. How does the Chev do? Cha Ching !! Chevy had a chance to own the high mileage market (EV-1), but they blew it! If you look at what Chevy calls "GM technology", you'll find Toyota beneath the hood. The Vibe is just a GM'ed up Toyota Matrix. The Tahoe Hybrid is almost a Toyota Sequoia with a GM body. GM actually owned the Prius battery and then sold it off to Phillips petroleum - who had absolutely no need for it. The next gen Prius will approach 100 MPG ... better than a Vespa and a lot more practical. PS: The Prius will outrun your pickup truck! Just ask Al Gore's son.
#33 of 50 Re: A REAL CAR [longhaultrucke] (t_wrx) by hpmctorque Sep 25, 2008 (5:29 am)
"The next gen Prius will approach 100 MPG." Where did you get that number?
#34 of 50 Re: Any New Photos or Specs on the 2010 Prius..or Any Other Good News? [timsabin] by t_wrx Sep 25, 2008 (10:47 am)
Replying to: timsabin (Sep 15, 2008 7:16 pm) There is a new gen electric motor from the aerospace industry which may come on the market soon. It will be a polyphase motor without permanent magnets. It will be able to provide huge low end torque along with high speed power - without overheating. The transmission may no longer be needed since the motor can be electronically switched to the speed desired. I really hope this technology will be incorporated into the new Prius along with Lithium Ion batteries and solar panels. A little larger wheel openings with flares would also be a nice touch. I'd also appreciate an "El Camino" style variant. This may be the only way to separate me from my '06 Prius.
#35 of 50 Don't exagerate by kdhspyder Sep 26, 2008 (3:03 pm)
The next Gen Prius will still be NiMH technology with about 10-20% better Fuel Economy ... tops. Plan on it averaging ~55+ mpg. Even when the PHEV Prius arrives 18 mo's later it will NOT get 100 mpg ( combined ). There is no reason to exagerate the Prius' capabilities, they speak for themselves. It's the best selling hybrid in the world because it does exactly what it's intended to do, it's dead solid reliable and it's affordable for the bulk of the population. Nothing else needs to be said.
#36 of 50 by priusconvert Nov 08, 2008 (8:35 am)
I work for a Chevy/Toyota dealer and have been asking our GM/Owner about the 2010 Prius. They came back from the national Toyota Convention a month ago and was told that the only changes coming at the launch were solar panels on the roof that would control a fan that will help keep your car cooler while sitting on a hot day. No other significant changes were being made at this time. They were also told that the 2010 model will be out in March or April. They have been taking deposits for a plug-in Prius, and have 10 of those, but no timeline from Toyota when that will be out. The dealership has had their "ear to the ground" on the new model since we live in an area of California that is known for its eco-friendly nature, excuse the pun. We are still selling about 40 Prius' a month, and still have over 30 orders. I can tell you that the major service issues I see on a regular basis is: rodent damage (we have at least 3 cases a week on this issue alone, mice get in and eat the wiring = $1500 repair), tires (expect your originals to last only 12,000 miles), complete battery failure between 95k-125k (the battery pack is only warranted for 100k miles). Also, please realize that the Prius has to be serviced by only certified technicians. At my dealership we have 15 techs, but only 2 are certified hybrid and have 2 more waiting certification. Those two techs have to service all the new incoming cars (pre-delivery inspections) in addition to those who have service appointments. I am waiting for more information for the 2010 model since I will most likely be purchasing one ahead of the waiting lists. Working here really does help me out, since when they go on backorder, there will still be one on the lot for people to look at. Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Nov 08, 2008 1:16 pm) cwyoming (May 29, 2009 6:17 am) wvgasguy (May 29, 2009 6:51 am) kdhspyder (May 30, 2009 12:35 pm) imscf (Nov 10, 2008 6:38 am)
#37 of 50 Re: [priusconvert] by kdhspyder Nov 08, 2008 (1:16 pm)
Replying to: priusconvert (Nov 08, 2008 8:35 am) I can tell you that the major service issues I see on a regular basis is: rodent damage (we have at least 3 cases a week on this issue alone, mice get in and eat the wiring = $1500 repair), tires (expect your originals to last only 12,000 miles), complete battery failure between 95k-125k (the battery pack is only warranted for 100k miles). Also, please realize that the Prius has to be serviced by only certified technicians. At my dealership we have 15 techs, but only 2 are certified hybrid and have 2 more waiting certification. Those two techs have to service all the new incoming cars (pre-delivery inspections) in addition to those who have service appointments. Most of this is false and misleading at best.. I've sold about 1000 hybrids ever since they arrived here in 2000. NONE - ZERO - of these have had to have the batteries fail needing a replacement. I own one...93000+ miles and counting. Now where to begin with your noobie/trollie misinformation... Warranties: You state that you live in CA and the warranty is 100,000 miles. That's false. In CA and several other states it's 10 yrs or 150,000 miles !! Rodent damage...OK that must be a local issue. Tires: This is false in the extreme. The Goodyear Integrity's are the middle of the road ones used on Corolla, Civic and Prius. They are warranted for 40000 miles. They are mediocre but passable for OEMs for 40000 mi. Mine lasted exactly 50,000 mi. Oil/filter changes, air filters and tire rotations can be done by any tech. Nothing else is needed from zero to 100.000 miles. THEN the hybrid Master Tech should become involved in doing the PSD fluid drain/replace. Please learn more before spreading gross misinformation. Come back in two years when you've done more studying. Your info 3rd hand is mostly incorrect on the new Gen3 also. Try doing some internet research on PriusChat for example. Replies to this message: cwyoming (May 29, 2009 6:17 am) wvgasguy (May 29, 2009 6:51 am) kdhspyder (May 30, 2009 12:35 pm)
#38 of 50 Re: [priusconvert] by imscf Nov 10, 2008 (6:38 am)
Replying to: priusconvert (Nov 08, 2008 8:35 am) "I can tell you that the major service issues I see on a regular basis is: rodent damage (we have at least 3 cases a week on this issue alone, mice get in and eat the wiring = $1500 repair)" Here in NYC, the problem is with squirrels gnawing at wiring to use in their nests. Strangely, the squirrels seem to have a liking to primarily large SUVs.
#39 of 50 On its website... by kdhspyder Nov 10, 2008 (4:10 pm)
Toyota has a countdown timer until the new Prius is debuted in Detroit in Jan 09. Nothing else there yet. Replies to this message: trucktricks (Nov 13, 2008 3:09 pm) kdhspyder (Nov 13, 2008 7:49 pm) wvgasguy (May 01, 2009 10:41 am)
#40 of 50 Re: On its website... [kdhspyder] by trucktricks Nov 13, 2008 (3:09 pm)
Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 10, 2008 4:10 pm) I've noticed that the Priuses are stacking up in dealers lots around here. If gas doesn't go up soon, (I paid $1.59 for reg. this morning here in Indiana) they will become very expensive boat anchors. Now I see that Toyota is not going through with plans to build them in Mississippi. I guess they just couldn't stand to see those dollars stay in America. The problem I see here is lack of foresight by Toyota. Their high paid managers should have known that oil and gas prices were going to crash. What a bunch of morons. They should all be fired. Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Nov 13, 2008 7:49 pm) wvgasguy (May 01, 2009 10:41 am)