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Re: why lease now [ghstudio]
by tayl0rd
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Jun 25, 2008 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Jun 24, 2008 11:29 am)
The prius was tempting... Volvo, Saab, Audi, Avalon were all eliminated due to either dullness of lack of excitement...
Wow! A Prius was more exciting than those others???
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Re: why lease now [tayl0rd]
by ghstudio
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Jun 25, 2008 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Jun 25, 2008 4:32 am)
At least a prius is a statement....and 40 miles per gallon is tempting these days in a pretty spacious car.
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Re: why lease now [tayl0rd]
by barryend
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Jun 25, 2008 (4:49 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Jun 25, 2008 4:32 am)
Isn't it more of a city or suburban car? I met some business contacts who drove a Prius 100 miles to a meeting. They were 20 something engineers. They were very unhappy with it's highway ride and handling. Caveat emptor.
If mileage is an issue checkout some turbo diesels. I rented a Passat for a week in Europe about 7 years ago. Fuel was $4.50 a gallon then. I loved it. Superb ride & handling. I did not measure the mileage but I am sure it exceeds a similar size hybrid on the highway. You could lead foot it and still get great mileage. Hybrids get great mileage downhill or in congestion and when ideling (they turn off). Once the gas engine kicks in you are a loser. What happens when the batteries die? Who pays?
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Re: M35X 2009 [arnold14]
by pat2717
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Jun 26, 2008 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: arnold14 (Jun 24, 2008 11:26 am)
I do 80% of my driving on the highway and I've probably averaged 16-19. One very important caveat, however, is that I recently discovered that my air filter had never been changed. I suppose it was an oversight by the dealer, but I was preparing for a 700 mile road trip last week and I got my oil changed. They pulled the air filter out and it was so caked with grime that I'm a little surprised the thing would run. They didn't have the right filter at the oil change place so I scrambled and got one on the morning of my trip. I averaged 23mpg on the trip, driving on winding mountain highways in New Mexico and Colorado. I was very pleased and I guess that a lot of my mileage issues were related to poor air flow. Maybe I'll stick with the 45 after all:)
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Re: why lease now [barryend]
by pat2717
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Jun 26, 2008 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: barryend (Jun 24, 2008 7:28 pm)
That's good to know about the tires. I was pretty surprised to be replacing my tires at about 15k. They were the Goodyears.
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Re: M35X 2009 [pat2717]
by james27
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Jun 26, 2008 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: pat2717 (Jun 26, 2008 12:10 pm)
I've been through some pretty nasty dust storms in NM and west Texas...you might need a new air filter in a few thousand miles rather than the 30K in a 'normal' place. Change the pollen filter, too so you get the proper air flow into the cabin as well.
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Re: M35X 2009 [pat2717]
by ghstudio
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Jun 26, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: pat2717 (Jun 26, 2008 12:10 pm)
I would have taken the filter back the dealer that serviced the car and had a few words....which included "I'll be posting my experience servicing my car with your dealership on the internet". Clearly your dealer was focused on getting just as many cars thru on an oil change as they could without doing the checks that you are paying for if you go to the dealer.
Of course, this is really weird because most dealers will take any air filter that has even the slightest amount of dirt on it and show you that you "must replace the air filter" because it's a high profit item. Something isn't ringing true here....
I guess I would ask the servicing dealer to explain how this could happen.....
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Re: M35X 2009 [pat2717]
by 150mphclub
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Jun 27, 2008 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: pat2717 (Jun 26, 2008 12:10 pm)
Consumer Reports just did a study on clean vs dirty air filters. They found that dirty filters had a negligible affect on gas mileage.
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Re: M35X 2009 [150mphclub]
by james27
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Jun 27, 2008 (5:26 am)
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Replying to: 150mphclub (Jun 27, 2008 4:54 am)
If the air intake is restricted enough, the computer just keeps adjusting the mixture and the power drops, but you shouldn't hurt the car much...when it does that, you often don't get the performance you should, though.
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Re: M35X 2009 [ghstudio]
by walt18
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Jun 27, 2008 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Jun 26, 2008 2:10 pm)
How much do you pay for those filters? Also if I added a aftermarket air intake to my M45 would that help improve gas mileage or hurt it being that it will add a little more HP?
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