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#1 of 13 Advance Trac problem by bwanapete Apr 24, 2008 (8:08 pm)
'03 Expedition - Message center says to get Advance Trac serviced. On a trip, 75 miles before it first began to act up, I had the right front tire balanced. What could I check myself before I turn it over to a dealer? Like maybe dirt in sensors? When it first happened, I was going straight at 65 on an Interstate. I think it was raining. I was in 2wd, but had used AWD earlier that day, maybe 140 miles earlier, while climbing a steep gravel drive to a hard road. No wheel spinning took place.   The dealer I bought from has closed. What about where I stand outside and turn the wheel lock to lock, to re-center the system? Are there connections to jump, to make this work? Replies to this message: cardbuff3 (May 19, 2008 3:57 am)
#2 of 13 Re: Advance Trac problem [bwanapete] by cardbuff3 May 19, 2008 (3:57 am)
Replying to: bwanapete (Apr 24, 2008 8:08 pm) Did you find what caused this ? Were you able to fix it youself ?
#3 of 13 replying to carbuff3 by bwanapete May 19, 2008 (5:23 am)
I haven't done anything about it yet. I bought a Mazda MX5 roadster (Miata), and have been letting the Ford rest. Sounds like you have the same problem, so whichever one of us fixes it first, lets post the details here. Replies to this message: cardbuff3 (May 20, 2008 12:35 pm)
#4 of 13 Re: replying to carbuff3 [bwanapete] by cardbuff3 May 20, 2008 (12:35 pm)
Replying to: bwanapete (May 19, 2008 5:23 am) I took mine in and they gave me two error codes . U1900 & U1051 . The U1900 is a Communication Bus Fault Recieve Error and the U1051 SCP Indicating the brake switch signal missing or incorrect . I then talked to another guy who said that there was maybe a short somewhere . Not much help from him and I'm still not sure whats wrong . If anyone has a direction for me to begin with , that would be great . If not , its back to the drawing board . I just spent 1K on new tires ( part of the problem ? ) so I'm not ready to open the check book without at least trying to take a run at this problem myself . Any advice / information will help .
#5 of 13 next step? by bwanapete May 20, 2008 (4:38 pm)
I'm going to try to figure out what there is for a wire leading to a sensor at my right front wheel because I had had that wheel off for balancing the day before this problem arose. Maybe this could be easy? This would fit with your error codes. I'll look in the next day or two and let you know. Replies to this message: cardbuff3 (May 21, 2008 1:37 am) cardbuff3 (May 28, 2008 12:48 pm) bwanapete (Dec 11, 2008 7:52 pm)
#6 of 13 Re: next step? [bwanapete] by cardbuff3 May 21, 2008 (1:37 am)
Replying to: bwanapete (May 20, 2008 4:38 pm) That a good place to start . I had two new tires put on just prior to the light coming on . I also think that you might want to check your brake switch . Its a micro switch that is by the brake pedal shaft . The Engine code U1051 seems to indicate some problem with mine ( maybe yours too ) . Frustrating part about that is Ford issued a Service Bulletin , TSB 02176 ( NHTSA 10008580 ) that address's this issue but I can't find a remedy to go along with the bulletin . So my first steps are to check out the brake switch as well as the fuses that pertain to the Advantrac , ABS and the modules that go along with them . Hopefully luck will be on our side .
#7 of 13 Re: next step? [bwanapete] by cardbuff3 May 28, 2008 (12:48 pm)
Replying to: bwanapete (May 20, 2008 4:38 pm) Hey Pete , FYI . Just got back from the Ford dealer where they charged me 73.00 to tell me its going to cost me 725.00 to get my crap expedtion fixed . I have been told its the ABS Module that will need to be replaced and reprogrammed . Not happy . Hope you make out better . Take care , Roger Replies to this message: bwanapete (Dec 11, 2008 7:52 pm)
#8 of 13 Re: next step? [cardbuff3] by bwanapete Dec 11, 2008 (7:52 pm)
Replying to: cardbuff3 (May 28, 2008 12:48 pm) It was a sensor on a wheel, corrosion I guess.
#9 of 13 Advance Trac - Another problem? by countrynewsman Feb 27, 2009 (3:17 pm)
When pulling my boat uphill from the ramp, and backing it up my driveway, my 2007 Expedition EL hesitates and will not move unless I turn the engine off and on again. I have had it to the dealer twice and was told that I had to turn off the Advance Trac system. I tried that, and it doesn't work. Still hesitates. The dealer hasn't a clue what the problem is. Replies to this message: bwanapete (Mar 01, 2009 3:37 pm) countrynewsman (Mar 01, 2009 3:59 pm)
#10 of 13 Re: Advance Trac - Another problem? [countrynewsman] by bwanapete Mar 01, 2009 (3:37 pm)
Replying to: countrynewsman (Feb 27, 2009 3:17 pm) My '03 has Advance Trac. You don't have to turn it off. The dealer made that up because he didn't know what is wrong. You probably still have warranty coverage, so maybe you need to try a different dealer or get the Ford zone office involved. I don't suppose you have surge brakes on your trailer. Or any other kind of trailer brake which can lock up when it shouldn't. If you have electric brakes, maybe a funny current causes problems. Replies to this message: countrynewsman (Mar 01, 2009 3:59 pm)

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