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#444 of 454 It's a lost cause
by steve_ HOST
Sep 24, 2012 (6:55 pm)
Especially with sedans.
"Designers have long struggled with fitting passengers comfortably into a car while maintaining the desired exterior shape. The riddle has become increasingly difficult to solve with the growing importance of aerodynamics in boosting a vehicle’s fuel economy. There isn’t much latitude if you are sculpting a car for minimum drag."
Why Do Cars Look Alike? (Wall St. Journal)
#445 of 454 Re: It's a lost cause [steve_]
Sep 24, 2012 (7:30 pm)
No mentioning of the lack of imagination in design schools. Of course, it is WSJ, might be seen as anti-"capitalism" in some weird way. Small trim details don't have much to do with fuel economy or space efficiency.
#446 of 454 Industry taps demand for tony interiors
by steve_ HOST
Jan 24, 2013 (8:01 am)
Hm, the old '70s Volvo in my family was very comfy to sit in while broken down on the side of the road.
Luxurious interiors are becoming a top factor in luring car and truck buyers while increasing profit margins for automakers.
In fact, reliability takes a back seat to interior design among consumers, according to a recent J.D. Power & Associates survey, which found a greater percentage of consumers will buy an unreliable vehicle than one with an interior design they perceive as unattractive.
Targeting car buyers from the inside (Detroit News)
#447 of 454 Re: Industry taps demand for tony interiors [steve_]
Jan 24, 2013 (5:33 pm)
n fact, reliability takes a back seat to interior design among consumers, according to a recent J.D. Power & Associates survey, which found a greater percentage of consumers will buy an unreliable vehicle than one with an interior design they perceive as unattractive.
This conclusion seems a bit dubious to me, perhaps it is heavily influenced by exactly how the question was worded and no doubt by the fact that most cars now are fairly reliable and have nice interiors.
#448 of 454 Re: Industry taps demand for tony interiors [andys120]
by steve_ HOST
Jan 24, 2013 (7:28 pm)
I wonder how much is influenced by the available telematics too. People want their gizmos.
#449 of 454 Re: Industry taps demand for tony interiors [andys120]
Jan 28, 2013 (7:46 pm)
most cars now are fairly reliable and have nice interiors.
Really? I think the interiors of most cars under $25K are crap (and a lot of more expensive vehicles too). Way too much hard plastic, lack of color, and how about putting in some contrasting materials? Not to mention we are now rushing headlong towards the future of touchscreens in every dash, with all the ugliness and irritations that brings. And if it's not that, it's gimmicky stuff like the Mini Cooper and the Sonic, as two examples.
#450 of 454 It's Nice Now . . .
Jan 29, 2013 (11:30 pm)
It is hard to believe that the North American mfr. "crash" happened years ago now. There was a long period when every time I came to this topic I was just so sad about the state of the industry that it took away any incentive to say anything about styling. But lately, the industry is picking up, and [MAGIC!] STYLING is back again!
It's hard to believe that Hyundai is now near the front of the automotive styling world. Go back 10 years and would you have believed that? Go back to the Hyundai Pony and would you believe that the company is still around at all?
I think I said before that Ford has taken over the position of "good style" that Mazda had before. I cannot believe that Mazda has continued its direction. The new Mazda 5? Why?
The new Lexus "pinched" grill is ok. The Acura front wedge thingies on the other hand, why haven't they gotten rid of those yet?
It is nice to see Chrysler's Dart. The size is interesting. I want to see how it compares to the previous Neons. I think the first Neons were shorter in height, but otherwise about the same.
About the Neons, I still see "well kept" Neons in Toronto. I think people still like the styling and that the owners are proud of their cars, and that gives them incentive to keep them in good shape. I expect to find that in 10 years, you will be surprised to see a Calibre still running.
Chevy: The Spark is "not terrible". If you give me one, I would drive it. I would not buy one. The same goes for the Sonic. My opinion of the Cruze has not changed. I like the car. I do not like the name. I am glad I got my Cobalt Coupe.
Buick: For different reasons, the same comment as the Sonic: If you give me one. . . .
Nissan Juke: The fender lights kill it. It is hard to believe that the same company put out the G35.
#451 of 454 Re: Industry taps demand for tony interiors [nippononly]
Jan 29, 2013 (11:32 pm)
Maybe interiors should be just slightly uncomfortable. If it keeps you just a bit irritated, maybe it will keep you awake at the wheel and more alert?
It's just a thought. . . .
#452 of 454 Re: Industry taps demand for tony interiors [writer]
Jan 31, 2013 (11:03 pm)
Not buying it, but good try!
Since inside is where I spend most of my time, I have come to think that I care a lot more about the quality of the inside than the styling of the outside.
#453 of 454 Re: Industry taps demand for tony interiors [nippononly]
by steve_ HOST
Feb 01, 2013 (7:20 am)
And that's the minivan owner's secret.