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#414 of 456 Re: Colours: Blue and Black (and others) [writer]
May 20, 2010 (11:59 am)
I don't mind the blue/gold on a WRX because of the rally connection, but I wouldn't want it on another car - especially the gold wheels. I think chrome looks better against dark colors than gold.
IIRC gold trim was really first mass marketed on mid 50s Caddys and I think as an option on the 57 Chevy...but didn't take off until the Japanese embraced it in the early 90s.
I like blue too, although a dark blue can be as much of a pain in the butt to maintain as black. My first car, a 66 Ford, was midnight blue. My fintail is also blue and my old W126 was a lovely "diamond blue".
#415 of 456 Re: the whale [nippononly]
May 20, 2010 (12:13 pm)
I think the Sonata is OK from the side, but the front end is a lot less than attractive, and the rear has a weird "stretched" look, which makes the car look ungainly fron quarter angles, especially the front. Funny thing is I have seen quite a few people compare it to the MB CLS. Maybe in some bizarro parallel universe.
#416 of 456 Re: Colours: Blue and Black (and others) [fintail]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
May 20, 2010 (12:24 pm)
I don't care for the gold trim on my Outback but I don't hate it enough to peel the pinstripes off. The worst are the badges, but they don't stand out too bad against the red color on mine.
Bright medium dark blues are popular here with the Boise State crowd (which is about 80% of everyone). Fortunately you rarely see any orange trim on the cars other than game day flags.
#417 of 456 Re: the whale [fintail]
May 20, 2010 (12:44 pm)
Funny thing is I have seen quite a few people compare it to the MB CLS. Maybe in some bizarro parallel universe.
I guess I can see some similarity, in the way that both cars seem almost exaggerated in their rakishness. Yet, the Benz pulls it off SOOOO much better!
I remember years ago, on more than one occasion I've seen people compare the beautiful 2nd-gen Mazda 929 to the suppository-on-wheels 1991 Caprice. I've even heard people compare the 2nd-gen Intrepid to the '91 Caprice! Yeah, all three are a bit extreme in the way they're rounded off, but the 929 and even the Intrepid were a class act compared to that Caprice!
#418 of 456 Re: Colours: Blue and Black (and others) [writer]
May 21, 2010 (6:53 pm)
At that time, I particularly did not want a Ferrari red because I had anecdotal (but in my opinion reliable) evidence that cops targeted "sporty cars" in this colour. Yes, it was a "sporty car."
That is a a "true fact". I had a number of cars colored white, cream, blue, black then a red Firebird. I had a number of cops stpp me in that red Firebird for sometimes mickey mouse stuff. Most stops ever in my life were in that red car. Never had a red car since, and never had the hassle of cops since. Have not changed my driving style since that red Firebird. There must be some kind of cop intensity toward red sport/sporty cars just like bulls charging a red flag/cloth.
#419 of 456 Re: Colours: Blue and Black (and others) [xrunner2]
May 22, 2010 (3:07 am)
I wonder if the red thing would apply to all vehicles, or just sporty ones? My '85 Silverado is two-toned, but mostly red, with a white roof and white lower body. You'd think something big and red would stick out like a sore thumb, but I've never had the cops mess with me when I'm driving it.
#420 of 456 Re: the whale [andre1969]
May 22, 2010 (7:35 am)
I remember I disliked those Caprices when that body was new...I called them "the whale", and the Buick and Caddy derivatives were even more offensive to my eyes. Weird overcompensation for being late to the aero game.
The 929 and Intrepid are much more restrained designs.
#421 of 456 Re: the whale [fintail]
May 22, 2010 (4:14 pm)
I think when the 'elitists' at the car magazines started ganging up on the styling of the '91 Caprice, most people soon followed suit. I still think the "Classic", with its 'lace' aluminum wheels, Goodyear Eagle's with pinstripe whitewalls, and plushy leather interior, has stood the test of time. It's really not significantly different than the Crown Victoria which followed a year later, and I've read that some cops actually preferred living with the Chevys better than the Fords--same with some taxi operators. At age 35 I actually bought a new '93, with the rear wheel openings 'radiused' out. Up close it was an amateurish job they did, but it did make the car look less 'heavy' in the rear.
It was a good car for the 93K miles we put on it. It had the F41 Sport Suspension and a full-size spare--last car I ever had with it. When we traded it in '99, nobody even wanted it. I was constantly getting postcards from companies wanting to buy Caprices for export, so I called one of them and they sent a guy out to my house who bought it on the spot for more $$ than I was offered in trade-in, and drove it away.
#422 of 456 Re: the whale [uplanderguy]
May 22, 2010 (5:32 pm)
I dunno if it is just blind hate...the car had some odd proportions and was just too rounded. I will say when it was refreshed for 94-95 or so (I am sure someone here can correct me) and got the little kink in the rear quarter window, it somehow made the design a little more balanced, maybe it made the car look smaller. Maybe it's just because it reminds me of the Impala, which is easily the variant of that platform I would choose first.
I wonder where your car went....it probably had an entire second life somewhere. I know a lot of period GM products were sold in the Middle East, maybe due to their usually good AC.
#423 of 456 Re: the whale [uplanderguy]
May 23, 2010 (4:38 pm)
Those Caprices looked a LOT better in 1993-94, with the full rear wheel openings and the wider rear track. And better still in 1995-96, when they got the cleaner taillights and the little kick-up in the beltline at the rear quarter window.
On Thanksgiving Day, I drove out to a nearby used car lot to check out a 1991 Caprice they had on the lot, before going over to my Granddad's to do the family dog and pony show. I was in a sort of limbo period at this time, as my Intrepid had gotten totaled just a week before, and I was looking for a replacement. The dealership was closed, but the Caprice was unlocked, so I was able to sit in it. I wasn't overly wow'ed by the car, but if I could've gotten it for around $1500-2000, I would've considered it. They were asking $3995, and I think it had around 75,000 miles on it, but it didn't look all that well taken care of.
I'm glad I waited it out a bit, and ended up with my $7500 56K mile 2000 Park Ave Ultra. But, I do find myself oddly drawn to the 1992-96 Roadmaster sedan. They're ugly and badly proportioned, yet still I find myself drawn to them.