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#385 of 392 Re: Chevy styling [xrunner2] by andre1969 Feb 24, 2009 (7:46 am)
Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 24, 2009 7:13 am) Please define a "true" two-door hardtop.   No B-pillar, and roll-down rear windows. The original concept for the Challenger was a 2-door hardtop, and I believe the Camaro concept was as well. However, the final production versions have a B-pillar and stationary rear windows. Most likely it was a cost-cutting move.   As far as I know, Mercedes Benz is the only manufacturer these days that makes a true 2-door hardtop. Replies to this message: xrunner2 (Feb 24, 2009 8:07 am) andre1969 (Feb 24, 2009 9:39 am) berri (Feb 24, 2009 6:42 pm)
#386 of 392 Re: Chevy styling [andre1969] by xrunner2 Feb 24, 2009 (8:07 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 24, 2009 7:46 am) I think the problems today with making a "true" 2-door hardtop are structural integrity and side impact protection. Replies to this message: andre1969 (Feb 24, 2009 9:39 am) berri (Feb 24, 2009 6:42 pm)
#387 of 392 Re: Chevy styling [xrunner2] by andre1969 Feb 24, 2009 (9:39 am)
Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 24, 2009 8:07 am) I think the problems today with making a "true" 2-door hardtop are structural integrity and side impact protection.   I don't think it would be too hard to do. After all, convertibles are still in production, so they must have found some way to overcome the side impact issue. And the back windows of a Camaro or Challenger are so small anyway, that it's really not opening up a huge vulnerable area.   I'm guessing though that most people just wouldn't care, other than die-hard old car fans like Lemko and me. With a convertible, you need the back windows to roll down, otherwise the car looks stupid. But they don't really make 2-door cars with useable back seats anymore, so I guess there's really no need for a roll-down rear window. I still kinda miss 'em, though. Replies to this message: berri (Feb 24, 2009 6:42 pm)
#388 of 392 I saw a new Jeep Wrangler> by andys120 Feb 24, 2009 (11:47 am)
#389 of 392 Re: Chevy styling [xrunner2] by berri Feb 24, 2009 (6:39 pm)
Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 23, 2009 11:23 am) The 70.5 was my favorite Camaro too, particularly in RS trim. I agree that Chevy did a good job with the downsized 77 Impala. My favorite Impala's are the 65 and 67 coupe or convertible. The 61-63 are all quite nice too, but the 64 seemed bit over styled? I actually liked the 59 better than the 60, especially that flat top 4 dr hdtp with all the wrap around glass, but I know I'm likely a minority on this one! The 59 GM line was a styling jolt like the 57 Mopars when they came out. However, the 59 line didn't go over as well. Maybe a bit too radical compared to the staid Ford products that year, or maybe people were a bit leery after the initial quality issues on the previously all new designed Mopars and Edsels? The 60 GM cars toned it down a bit, but may have also taken away a bit of the prior year model excitement (however, I think the 60's generally outsold the 59's, but I'm not sure if it was actually the GM restyle, or the ugly 60 Ford and uninspired 60 Plymouth and Dodge?)
#390 of 392 Re: Chevy styling [andre1969] by berri Feb 24, 2009 (6:42 pm)
Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 24, 2009 9:39 am) Is the new Caddy coupe going to be fixed window?   I know another reason for fixed rear windows is cost savings which is why the old 2 dr hdtp designed seemed to be replaced with fixed windows starting in the early 70's.
#391 of 392 Every passing month... by andys120 Feb 24, 2009 (10:00 pm)
..seems to bring more confirmation that it is no longer Ferrari which builds the most beautiful sports cars.   Replies to this message: fintail (Feb 25, 2009 8:29 am)
#392 of 392 Re: Every passing month... [andys120] by fintail Feb 25, 2009 (8:29 am)
Replying to: andys120 (Feb 24, 2009 10:00 pm) Is it just me, or does that really look like a scale model?

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