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Re: Choices... [andys120] by andre1969
Sep 08, 2008 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: andys120 (Sep 08, 2008 12:57 pm)

Here's an ad for the '62 Wildcat...

 
I think that's another one where I like the '61 better. I just like peaked front fenders and the slight forward thrust that it gives the car. Still, the '62 is nicer. And the '63 is pleasant enough, although some little details I don't like, like the way the headlights seem to stick out a bit too far.
 
Overall though, I think '61-64 was pretty much a golden era when it came to GM design. I think the '65 models were gorgeous too, but then they started cluttering them up for '66, and when they got fatter for '67, I think it mucked the styling of a lot of them up. Although for some reason, I thought the '67 Pontiacs came out looking gorgeous...almost futuristic looking.
 
That '63 GP is definitely a looker.
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Re: Choices... [andre1969] by fintail
Sep 08, 2008 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 08, 2008 1:15 pm)

I've always liked that GP too, just the right amount of businesslike angularity.
 
GM really knew what they were doing in the realm of styling, once upon a time.
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Re: Choices... [andre1969] by bumpy
Sep 08, 2008 (2:57 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 08, 2008 1:15 pm)

What's "4447"? The list price?
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Re: Choices... [bumpy] by andre1969
Sep 08, 2008 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Sep 08, 2008 2:57 pm)

I didn't know, so I googled it. Looks like "4447" was an internal GM code for that body style, which is actually a LeSabre 2-door hardtop. The same picture actually shows up on this page.
 
Also looking at that page, I see they were still calling the midrange series "Invicta". So when did the Wildcat come out, '63? I could've sworn I've seen a '62 Wildcat...unless it was just an option package and not an actual model that would have production figures broken out?
 
I'd imagine a '62 LeSabre would have started around $2800-3000, base price. I remember the Chrysler Newport was $2964 for the 4-door sedan, from 1961-64, and I'm sure the LeSabre was a bit cheaper. I'm sure it was easy to option one up to $4447, though! Especially if you got air conditioning.
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A Year Passes By, (More or Less) by writer
Sep 12, 2008 (9:48 pm)
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I was thinking about how my opinions have developed over the last year:
 
The new Matrix is not so bad after all. Partly, seeing it in context made it comprehensible to me. I "get it" now. Even the front, which I thought looked too stubby looks ok now. I still do not find it wonderful, but it is ok. I am no so sure that I like the new Vibe better than the new Matrix anymore. They are closer to equal in my current view. For pure styling I still to not prefer it over the old Matrix (or the last previous Vibe), but they are all closer to equal for me now.
 
I still do not like the current CRV, though it now blends into the landscape more.
 
The current Accord does not look terrible, but no, I cannot say that I like it.
 
I am finding the 2008 Lancer more attractive. Really, it is a matter of it fitting in more with other current cars from BMW and M-B, and a few others with that kind of arched curve crease on the side.
 
I really like the Saturn Astras.
 
I still do not like Calibres.
 
I ended up disappointed with the new Challenger when I saw it in traffic. The problem is scale. It is really too big for a "modern pony car".
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Looking a longer time back, I find I like the Azteks now. I have seen some with paint that looks new to me. It makes a big difference. Yes, I would still prefer a different rear end treatment, but overall, it does not look bad. I think that the other SUVs just sort of because worse over time -- gaudy.
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Re: A Year Passes By, (More or Less) [writer] by andys120
Sep 13, 2008 (3:33 am)
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Replying to: writer (Sep 12, 2008 9:48 pm)

I'm in tune w most of your observations, tho I have yet to see a Challenger.
 
I doubt the Aztek however will ever look good to me, the shape of the rear end is just terrible and makes the vehicle look way too tall and narrow. The rest of the car is just plain awkward and over-decorated. It's still the most mis-begotten design to come out of the "Big Three" since the God-awful 1960 Mo Pars.
 
The sad thing is that the idea behind the Aztek was a good one, Honda made that idea work in the metal with the Element. I know a lot of people don't like that one but I find it unique and charming and you can't knock the practicality.
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Re: A Year Passes By, (More or Less) [writer] by nippononly
Sep 13, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: writer (Sep 12, 2008 9:48 pm)

I think it ironic that in the world of small cars, all the models out there have undergone styling changes since 2004, several in some cases, save the one that STILL looks the best (to me) in 4- or 5-door form: the Mazda3.
 
The "spaceship" 2006+ Civic has grown on me over time though, and I would call that a close second now.
 
"Most improved" in that timeframe HAS to go to the Lancer, with Impreza the runner-up in that category, IMHO.
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Re: A Year Passes By, (More or Less) [nippononly] by fezo
Sep 13, 2008 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 13, 2008 9:38 am)

There used to be a topic in here called something along the lines of "GM cars look like angry appliances." I think of that every time I see an Aztek.
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Re: A Year Passes By, (More or Less) [fezo] by fintail
Sep 13, 2008 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Sep 13, 2008 10:07 am)

The angry appliance look is still alive with many cars and soft road vehicles, with their menacing eyes...what I feel is a very base styling ploy.
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The Original Angry Appliances by lemko
Sep 15, 2008 (4:59 am)
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I really like these two, especially the Plymouth:
 

 

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