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Stationwagons by writer
Sep 08, 2008 (4:55 am)
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I was thinking that I do not even know where the word "stationwagon" came from. I might look it up later. Anyway, if you think about it, there has been a lot of action in this segment over the last few years. The PT Cruiser was one of the highlights for me. I like the Mazda 3 "5-door" hatchback (which might not be in the US, but is sold up here in Canada). I also like the Mazda 5 and the Kia Rondo. The Matrix and the Vibe are in this segment too. The Saturn Astra 5 door is good, but I hear there will be something better coming from GM next year.
 
I hear that the Chevy HHR is selling well in the US. I did not really like that one, but for those who do, I am sure they are glad GM made them. I still wish they had come out with something more like a PT Cruiser. Oh well.
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Re: Stationwagons [writer] by andre1969
Sep 08, 2008 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: writer (Sep 08, 2008 4:55 am)

I think the station wagon might have its roots in something that was called a Depot Hack. It was a vehicle built for resorts, hotels, and the like, to transport guests and their luggage back and forth from the railroad station. Here's a pick of an old Model T Depot Hack:
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Re: Stationwagons [writer] by imidazol97
Sep 08, 2008 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: writer (Sep 08, 2008 4:55 am)

"The first station wagons were a product of the age of train travel. They were originally called 'depot hacks' because they worked around train depots as hacks (short for hackney carriage, an old name for taxis). They also came to be known as 'carryalls' and 'suburbans'. The name 'station wagon' is a derivative of 'depot hack'; it was a wagon that carried people and luggage from the train station to various local destinations."
 
I thought it meant a utility vehicle (estate car) for suburbanites to commute to the train station to get to work. Andre had the right idea in his post. My knowledge is colored by my midwest roots. We didn't have train stations for commuting to work; you just walked out the back door toward the barn and the farm implements! The concept of commuting to work was a large city and east coast quality.
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Now here's a pretty station wagon by lemko
Sep 08, 2008 (6:37 am)
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My link changed by guss
Sep 08, 2008 (6:48 am)
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Anyway, this is one of the better ones I have seen in the past few years.
 
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Re: Stationwagons [andys120] by andre1969
Sep 08, 2008 (8:35 am)
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How, exactly, DOES one draw the line between a station wagon and a hatchback?
 
It used to be easy back in the day when many cars actually offered both styles. For instance, the 80's Escort had both a 4-door hatchback and a wagon. But once you start eliminating rear overhang and making the back end of the car more vertical, the distinction really starts to blur.
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Re: Stationwagons [writer] by andys120
Sep 08, 2008 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: writer (Sep 08, 2008 4:55 am)

You make a very good point, cars like the PT Cruiser, Chevy HHR and Mazda3 5dr.
are often thought of as hatchbacks but are really small SWs and they are selling well.
  
I still wish they had come out with something more like a PT Cruiser.
  
I'm not sure how the HHR could be more like the PT Cruiser unless Chryco made it. I like the Magnum too, Guss, the practicality is not as great as those old Caprice and Crown Vic wagons but it sure looks cool and I imagine it'd tow w the best of 'em. Too bad they dropped it it was the last full-size RWD Yank Tank wagon.
  
Also inexplicably axed, the hatchback and wagon versions of the Mazda6 , which looked pretty cool IMO.

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