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Re: 2008 Accord uncomfortable front seat back [jodar96] by dbdc
Aug 23, 2009 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: jodar96 (Aug 20, 2009 8:08 am)

jodar96, you were right. I sold the Accord after 2 months (at a 4K loss). I hope I do not now have permanent back damage. Back hurts most of the time, even in my other car, which I have driven for 5 years comfortable. Wish I had seen your post re: Altima or Mazda 6. I ended up purchasing a Volvo C30, which I had looked at previously, mainly because Volvo does not use the "active" head restraint. These seats seem much better, but its hard to tell because my back is still so messed up from the accord. It seems like it did something do a disk. The pain does not seem to be merely muscular. Hopefully I'll be able to enjoy driving again.
 
To all prospective new Honda buyers, please drive it for at least one hour before making your decision. Rent one if you have to.
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Re: 2008 Accord uncomfortable front seat back [dbdc] by jodar96
Aug 23, 2009 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: dbdc (Aug 23, 2009 8:26 am)

Your back will be fine once you do not have that constant lower bulge against it. The Accord was my wife's. I talked her into selling her 2000 Lincoln LS ( it did have comfortable seats) to get the Accord. Once we got rid of the Accord, our backs have been fine. We bought a used 2004 RX330 for her.
 
You always loose more money when you trade in. Honda is one of the best cars you can sell on your own. You must be patient while trying to sell it on your own. We lost $2K for a 16 month old Accord EX with 9K miles. It sat in third garage Nov-March due to being terrible time of the year to sell a car.
 
I am not sure Accord crappy seat has anything to do with their active head restraining system. Everyone these days uses the system. In fact, Volvo pioneered the system and I am sure your C30 has the system.
 
Accord seat back design is simply POOR. Honda thinks they got it right, but I feel they are clueless as what a comfortable seat design should feel like.
 
My 2001 MB E430 has to have the benchmark for front seat comfort. With its 21 gallon tank, I have done 535 miles w/o stopping in that car. There was no way I could take more than two hours in our 2008 Accord.
 
Joe
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Re: 2008 Accord uncomfortable front seat back [jodar96] by dbdc
Aug 23, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: jodar96 (Aug 23, 2009 9:35 am)

Interestingly, my 5 year old Toyota Prius, while not having what I would call luxurious seats, has never caused any back pain, even on a 10 hour drive. It only has the minimal adjustments, tilt and forward/back. When I drove a 2010 Camry, with full power seats the other day, the seat felt just the same as the Prius, suprise? One initial adjustment and no further thought required. It seems thats how all cars seats used to be. But now the seats are fussier, seems that if you get one of the 8 different (even manual adjustments) wrong you make things worse.
 
My benchmark seat was my 200 BMW 328, it had lumbar that went up and down, as well as in and out. I don't see how lumbar can accomodate different height drivers without that feature.
 
My
next car will either be a Toyota or Lexus (but most are boring to drive) or something with the up/down lumbar.
 
But hopefully, my back can recover, and I can drive my C30 for a few years!
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Re: 2008 Accord uncomfortable front seat back [dbdc] by jhinsc
Aug 24, 2009 (3:50 am)
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Replying to: dbdc (Aug 23, 2009 8:26 am)

Could it be that your back already had problems and the Accord's seats just made it more apparent? I'm not doubting your back pain or problems, but a car's seat can't be the cause of it. Typically degenerative disk disease, injury or combination thereof exists. I hope you're able to get it taken care of.
 
I for one find my exl-v6 Accord's seat very comfortable and could sit all day in it on a long drive. I wish the front passenger seat has the same adjuestments and lumbar adjustment, but thankfully the Accord is my daily driver and I rarely sit on the passenger side.
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Re: 2008 Accord uncomfortable front seat back [jhinsc] by dbdc
Aug 24, 2009 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Aug 24, 2009 3:50 am)

Well, when my wife had some back issues a few years ago, she was told by her orthopedist that if you did a spinal MRI on people in their 50's (my age) 90% have some disk degeneration. Usually, however, its sub-clinical.
 
Perhaps thats something that car manufacturers should take into account in their seat design.
 
I am feeling better each day in my C30. I have lumbar on "full", on this car, but it covers a much larger vertical range than the Honda did.
 
In answer to the previous poster's comments about active headrests, yes Volvo was the first manufacturer to use them. However, innovative in safety as always, now they have something called the WHIPS. See this link (here at Edmunds):
 
http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/safety/articles/46912/article.html
 
in the picture, you see that the entire seat moves in a rear impact, not just the head rest. Thus no need for the sensor plate mechanism that Honda so artlessy inserts in to all 2008-2009 seats, except Odyssey.
 
Again, seats are a personal matter, and I think everyone especially over 50, should find a way to drive a car or interest for a full hour or two before purchase.
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Re: 2008 Accord uncomfortable front seat back [jhinsc] by cdn2
Aug 24, 2009 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Aug 24, 2009 3:50 am)

Are you serious? I am only 45 and very good physical shape working out 6 days a week. I truly think it has to do with height (I am 6'5) not back problems. My back feels better after about 30 minutes out of the car (or sitting in the passenger seat).
Again, I would've never bought the car if I would've known but it is primarily my wife's car. My F150 doesn't cause any pain at all.
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Re: 2008 Accord uncomfortable front seat back [cdn2] by jhinsc
Aug 25, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: cdn2 (Aug 24, 2009 3:11 pm)

Actually I am very serious. I am an over 50 male, 5'10", 160lbs fit and healthy, but not immune to aches and pains. Your height is a factor. They are much more comfortable than Toyota Camry seats - Camry seats don't have enough thigh support, even at my average height. My other vehicle is an 07 Chev Avalanche LTZ but I don't drive it everyday. On long trips, the seats are not comfy at all.
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Re: 2008 Accord uncomfortable front seat back [jhinsc] by dbdc
Aug 25, 2009 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Aug 25, 2009 7:46 am)

Hilarious....I'm 6', and found Camry seats very comfy, but thats after 5 years of Prius seats - but the Accord killed me. Both Prius and Camry are very marshmallow like, they don't try to reshape your spine.
 
Now my C30 seat seems to hurt as well, and it didn't when I test drove it before I bought the now-sold Accord. I'm hoping this is still a reaction to my 2 months in the Accord, as noone seems to have had similar experiences with this seat.
 
Meanwhile, when I drive my Prius, all pain goes away. But I think part of it is that both seat and back sort of adapt after a couple of months, but with "aggressively ergonomic" seats it may take longer.
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Re: 2008 Accord uncomfortable front seat back [dbdc] by personatech
Aug 25, 2009 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: dbdc (Aug 25, 2009 10:14 am)

In all fairness, let's remember why Honda has done this in the first place: all car manufacturers are mandated by our friend Uncle Sam to have active head restraint systems STANDARD in the near future (not sure what year, though). Camrys, Mazda6s, Altimas, etc. will ALL have to deal with this issue soon enough. Honda is just reaping the unfortunate flak of trying to be first to market with a mandated safety feature.
 
It may be possible to create a more comfortable solution to the problem, but given the mechanics of the situation - having to deal with forces of sudden deceleration while providing adequate support to the neck - Honda's solution is probably the least costly and most effective. Having a motorized solution would add significant cost. Having a more comfortable solution probably wouldn't be as effective. I suppose an alternative would be to have some kind of chin-strap contraption a la Clockwork Orange but somehow I think we'd be unhappy with that as well.
 
I will be curious to see how manufacturers renowned for their comfort (Mercedes, Jaguar, Cadillac, etc.) will address the problem and whether their solution antagonizes their clientele as much as Honda's has.
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Re: 2008 Accord uncomfortable front seat back [personatech] by jodar96
Aug 25, 2009 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: personatech (Aug 25, 2009 1:18 pm)

I have a tough time imagining mass producing Honda is ahead of Mercedes, BMW, Volvo in safety department. The crappy lower back bulge has nothing to do with being first, middle, or last with head restraining system.
 
Joe

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