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#172 of 211 Re: Seats [dagem]
May 30, 2011 (12:01 pm)
Well, back to square one, I'm replying to myself just to let people know I'm still struggling with this seat.
I went to "Relax the Back" and was talking to them and looking for a lumbar support that might fit the car. Both employees were astounded at the seat design, the slant to the seat bottom was the thing they noticed and commented about the most. They confirmed that with the seat bottom like that the lower back would roll and put pressure on it. They had nothing that would fit the seat due to the high sides of the bottom and suggested a custom seat cushion, so I ventured to an upholstery shop and talked to the owner about a cushion.
He gave me some foam to use to get the seat they way I wanted it, before we went any further. I got some firm foam (maybe to firm) but raising my hips up will hopefully stop the rounding of my lower back and allow me to sit with the proper lumbar support.
I am slowly realizing that the Accord may have to be traded in, I put $10k down so I wont actually owe money to trade, but losing some or all of that really sucks. I got the 8yr/100k Honda Care that will transfer so who ever gets her will be covered for a long time.
I guess I'm just venting now, maybe the cushion will work.
#173 of 211 Re: Seats [dagem]
May 30, 2011 (12:42 pm)
I am an engineer so I took a very analytical approach to this issue. Here is what I found works. First, the seat bottom does not have a good range of adjustments. The front of the seat is too high so it pushes you into the back of the seat and it puts more pressure on your lower back from the lumber support. I raised the back of the seat with longer bolts and washers so the seat bottom is more leveled and my back does not get pushed into the back of the seat. Second, I reduced the bulge of the seat back (lumber support) by pushing the head restraint forward and putting spacers in the gap to keep it there. Presto, no more seat problems.
May 31, 2011 (5:59 am)
Might just want to go over and make sure you did a few things.
1. Make sure that you have removed the white adjustable lumbar plate.
2. Be sure that you have fabricated the new tomato cage wire as deep as possible.
3. When you put the additional foam in, put only one layer in the middle layer in front of the black plate. Put two (or more) strip layers on the sides and top of the seat back. The idea here being to have all of the areas other than the black plate area a little thicker to help minimize the back plate protrusion.
It is kind of like adjusting the pillows at night when you sleep. You need to do it a few times before it is just right. Don't discount the foam, it is the one thing that you can slide around until the seat feels better.
#175 of 211 Seat modification liability
May 31, 2011 (2:41 pm)
I can understand the need to make the seats work for you, but what is everyone going to do when the sell/trade in their Accords with modified seats? I'm referring to potential liability issues with modifying or even defeating the active headrests. The concern is what could happen if they were involved in an accident, injured, and the modifications were uncovered? They could go after previous owners in a lawsuit.
#176 of 211 Re: Seat modification liability [mrbill1957]
Jun 03, 2011 (11:54 am)
Everything I've done can and will be returned to factory original condition (or as close as possible since I will have removed stuff and put it back in), when/and/or/if I get rid of the car.
I have a lot of pictures of the cat seat before I changed anything on the usb memory stick I keep in the car for the radio, and they are backed up on my laptop, desktop and my back-up drive. Old IT habits dies hard, but that way I can always look at them to know exactly how it was before my "adjustments".
I am not afraid to allow my wife to drive the car the way it is, and I wouldn't and didn't buy a 2011 Malibu (or any other car) with a less than 3 star rating for the front passenger side.
That's the reason I'm trying to use a custom pillow to raise the seat bottom instead of just putting washers under the seat as others have done. It's more for the safety of my daughter in her car seat, I don't want the bolts to break and let my seat move into her space during a crash.
I have thought about it as well, I would never sell the car without letting people know what has been done to it. I would be devastated if someone was injured from something I did.
#177 of 211 Re: Seat modification liability [mrbill1957]
Jun 06, 2011 (5:25 am)
All of the modifications I did do not prevent the active head restraint from functioning. It still works, just that the bump does not protrude out as far. The other thing is that it can be put back exactly the way it was because the modification is not permanent.
I for one will not worry about what will happen in the future as I own the car today and it needs to be comfortable to me right now.
#178 of 211 Re: Seat modification liability [mikebike125]
Jun 06, 2011 (9:05 am)
You might want to try to see if your local dealer will let you try a headrest from the 7th generation Accord and see if it fits. Might be worth a shot as I don't think it had the active head restraint.
#179 of 211 New seat?
Jun 07, 2011 (10:57 am)
Has anyone considered just buying a totally different seat? My 08 Accord EX-L is so uncomfortable I don't know what to do. I've have this persistent lower back pain and I know it's from the seat. I don't feel the bulge that everyone else is talking about, but for me it is just a matter of no good position for the seat. I feel like I'm always moving it around trying something new, but it just doesn't work. I bought a memory foam seat cushion that covers the bottom and back of the seat. It worked for about a week, but now I'm back to square one. I found a website called Andy's Auto Sports and they have a lot of "racing" seats ranging from $150 to thousands. I know I would lose my heated seat and wouldn't be able to adjust it as much, but I don't care. Any thoughts?
#180 of 211 Re: Seat modification liability [npolite]
Jun 07, 2011 (12:48 pm)
It's not as simple as that. Mechanisms inside the seat back make the headrest move. The headrest is fine, it's just the mechanical parts that bulge out so far that cause the problem. You can actually remove the headrest and the problem is still there because it is in the seat back.
#181 of 211 Re: Seat modification liability [mikebike125]
Jun 07, 2011 (3:35 pm)
Ah ok I understand. It isn't the head-rest rather what is inside the top of the seat that is causing the issue.