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Re: 2010/11 Avalon and Avalon Hybrid news [mffan310] by kenb757
May 27, 2009 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: mffan310 (May 03, 2009 6:39 am)

Love to get a US version of the Crown Majesta as the new Avalon:
 
http://toyota.jp/crownmajesta/exterior/garally/index.html
 
In any case, looking forward to seeing any spy pics of a new Avalon. Anybody seen anything around Toyota Sales in Torrance, CA? Western Ave. and 190th St.
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Re: 2010/11 Avalon and Avalon Hybrid news [kenb757] by ncee
May 27, 2009 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: kenb757 (May 27, 2009 7:40 am)

As would I:)
 
Boy that sure looks like a great car. Here's hoping.
 
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Crown Majesta[kenb757] by bwia
May 27, 2009 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: kenb757 (May 27, 2009 7:40 am)

The 5th. generation Crown MAJESTA (S180) is a huge V-8, rear-wheel drive car weighing in excess of 4,000 lbs and costing more than $69,000. Nice car, but probably above the price point for a Toyota. Read more at http://www.answers.com/topic/toyota-crown-majesta
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Re: Crown Majesta[kenb757] [bwia] by ncee
May 31, 2009 (5:24 am)
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Replying to: bwia (May 27, 2009 2:25 pm)

A few interesting links:)
 
- http://www.netcarshow.com/toyota/2007-crown_hybrid_concept/
 
- http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=2007%20Toyota%20Crown&- oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
 
- http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=2010%20toyotas&oe=UTF-- 8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
 
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Alternatives to the Avalon by mcclearyfl
May 31, 2009 (5:49 am)
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Speculating on Toyota's Japanese models as replacements for the Avalon is a lot of fun, but the reality is very different. The Avalon is a North America-only model, and probably doesn't have the sales volume that would justify its existence, except for one thing. It is manufactured at the same Georgetown Kentucky plant as the Camry, and there are procurement and manufacturing synergies that make the car worthwhile from a profit perspective.
 
Any significant deviation from its Camry-derived platform and running gear would put the Avalon in an unsustainable market position.
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Re: Alternatives to the Avalon [mcclearyfl] by houdini1
May 31, 2009 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: mcclearyfl (May 31, 2009 5:49 am)

I believe the Avalon is currently using the old Camry platform (2006) as basically the Avalon body hasn't changed since 2005. So maybe at least they will be changing over to the new body.
 
Of course I could be wrong if the 2005 Avalon got the new body before the Camry?
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U.S. Avalon sales numbers[houdini1] by bwia
Jun 01, 2009 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 31, 2009 8:17 am)

As the chart shows with each passing year sales of a model declines so based upon historial precedence the Avalon cannot survive unless a new model is introduced.
 
US Calendar Year Sales
2000 --104,078
2001 --83,005
2002 --69,029
2003 --50,911
2004 --36,460
 
2005 --95,318
2006 --88,938
2007 --72,945
2008 --42,790
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US Avalon sales numbers & new model by ncee
Jun 01, 2009 (5:43 am)
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It will be interesting to see what 2009 brings for sales.
 
It's not just the aging of a model now, it's also the economy, other models and simply do folks need a new car?
 
Many of us, currently have a new enough model, and those that don't, may not have a job, or don't know how much longer they will have a job.
 
Folks are getting much harder to talk into a new car, when they one they have is just fine, or in MANY cases, they are up-side down on the value vs the trade-in or even selling out right price.
 
I know I paid just months earlier, a price for my Avalon, that at the time was very good ($6.000.00 under invoice), yet now as a trade-in it's worth even less then that by several thousand dollars ; this is to much, for even me to deal with.
 
I say "Even me" because - if I want something I just buy it:)
 
Now I'll wait and see what the next model has to offer, and if I WANT it, I'll deal with the money issues and be ok with it. Heck I'm looking into trading for a 2 or 3 year old Lexus LS 430, and we'll be taking a beating - of sorts.
 
The bottom line here is this.
 
The automotive industry wants folks to pay a new car, but folks just can't keep doing this every other year, and if folks keep their cars for 5 or more years, which is what they are saying folks are doing, then the industry will have to look at making cars for 2 years, then taking a year off or something weird like that.
 
But I digress …
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Re: Alternatives to the Avalon [houdini1] by tjc78
Jun 01, 2009 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 31, 2009 8:17 am)

Of course I could be wrong if the 2005 Avalon got the new body before the Camry?
 
In '05 the platform was heavily revised ("all new" according to Yota) for the then new Avalon. The '07 Camry then got the shortened version and the 2GR motor from the Avalon. So as of right now the Camry and Avalon (and Highlander, ES, RX, RAV, Sienna) are all on the same basic platform and engines.
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re: Avalon replacement … What would you like to see? [ncee] by jemanner
Jun 06, 2009 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: ncee (Dec 10, 2008 3:20 am)

I agree to this thread, the Avalon will probably go away in these tough times for auto manufacturers. Besides the obvious, such as very little response to suggested improvements by owners (NAV system, soft handling, etc) there are small indicators unnoticed my some, such as the 2009 brochure being very abbreviated, and dropping the Touring model, which Consumer Reports reported as being the better handling model. I hope I am wrong, but the indicators are out there.

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