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Re: Good snow tires for Avalon … [captain2] by wwest
Dec 29, 2008 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Dec 29, 2008 8:40 am)

While torque stear in a FWD can be a problem, IS a problem at times, it was or is not a serious or primary consideration in my denegration of FWD and F/AWD vehicle. Torque stear CANNOT raise its ugly head unless one has a fairly high traction coefficient with the roadbed.
 
My concern of/about FWD & F/AWD is primarily about the greater potential for loss of directional control due to engine torque, leading or lagging.
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Re: New Avalon [bobgwtw] by popsavalon
Dec 29, 2008 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: bobgwtw (Dec 28, 2008 6:56 pm)

The leather interior I purchased was on the original invoice, so I question the term "aftermarket". My point was that I got an XL with some very nice bells and whistles plus a leather interior with heated seats for 30K. It is an outstanding car that meets my needs, at a very reasonable price.
 
You cannot buy an XLS with heated seats for less than 35K, probably 36-37K when you add some other things that would be "nice to have", but not really necessary for nice comfortable transportation.
 
In this economy, I would rather have the money in hand!
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Re: New Avalon [popsavalon] by nimimi
Dec 29, 2008 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: popsavalon (Dec 29, 2008 2:23 pm)

You must be talking Canadian $. You can buy a new Avalon Limited with everything but NAV for $33K easily! So the XLS should be much less than that.
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Re: New Avalon [nimimi] by popsavalon
Dec 29, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: nimimi (Dec 29, 2008 3:22 pm)

You are probably right on numbers, I was using some old data from before the car sales crash.
My main point was to be that that an XL is still a nice car for around 15% less than an XLS, if you are watching dollars.
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Re: New Avalon [nimimi] by amauhry
Dec 30, 2008 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: nimimi (Dec 29, 2008 3:22 pm)

In September of 2007 I bought an '08 Limited with all factory options (except for the body molding and spoiler) for.....$37,705.25 including tax and everything else.
That happened here in NYC.
 
The car was fully paid for by the time I drove it out of the showroom on that beautiful September day.
 
Amaury
'08 Limited
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A worthy Avalon replacement by bwia
Dec 30, 2008 (10:24 am)
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Since it appears that the Avalon will not return in 2010 I am thinking the Hyundai Genesis might be a worthy and less expensive replacement. I have seen the 290-hp Genesis up close but so far have not yet test driven it.
 
At a Chevy/Hyundai dealership I had a chat with the sales manager and he said a good offer would be $800 below invoice. What do you guys think, is the Genesis the way to go or perhaps the Lexus ES350?
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Re: A worthy Avalon replacement [bwia] by ncee
Dec 30, 2008 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: bwia (Dec 30, 2008 10:24 am)

The area Hyundai dealer made me a nice offer AFTER I purchased my Avalon:(
 
I thought about one before I purchased the Avalon, but at $3500.00 more then the Avalon, I couldn't see it. Of course it was the second phone call that had the price lowered to within the reach of the Avalon.
 
I'm glad (so far) that I didn't purchase it … mostly because they just got a Very nice, low mileage unit in trade, and they are selling it for $16990.00!
 
Now I point this out because right now, they DO NOT have a great following, or a very good re-sale value. That's a $20,000.00 PLUS drop in 1 model year (and only 11,300 miles).
 
Now likely to be something about the car, but I don't see anything.
 
Now checking online for used Avalon's brings up several come up, and ALL at nice high prices. Which makes me happy, that right now, they have a great re-sale value. For that reason alone, I would purchase a current model Avalon, and worried about the fact they MAY drop it from the lineup in a few years.
 
I sold my 2007 Camry for $1,140.00 less then I paid for it, after 13 months and 38,000 miles
 
My wife has been offered $11,400.00 as a trade for her 2003 Toyota Camry with 47,000 original miles on it.
 
My point … Toyotas hold their value, and for that reason alone I would purchase another one.
 
Hyundai Genesis gets for good reviews as the car goes, but most do wonder about the re-sale value.
 
I will say, when you go to Toyota.com and compare the Genesis to the Avalon, there sure isn't as much difference as we would have though. Size, dimensions, space, room and so on, are very compatible. Sure makes you wonder which market Hyundai is after.
 
I'm guessing it will be a nice car, but don't worry about the fact the Avalon may be gone as such in 2010, it will be replaced, not gone.
 
Skip
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Re: A worthy Avalon replacement [bwia] by tjc78
Dec 30, 2008 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: bwia (Dec 30, 2008 10:24 am)

I am thinking the Hyundai Genesis might be a worthy and less expensive replacement
 
I don't know about being less expensive (40K loaded V6) however it is a nice ride. I drove one it feels a lot different than the Avalon being RWD and having a stiffer suspension. My '06 Avalon is due to come off lease soon and I am in a similar dilemma.... if the Avalon is being redesigned for 2010 I will extend my lease or just drive my pickup until the new model comes out. If its being discontinued the ES350 or the Genesis are my top two picks. The ES is a great car too but smaller than the Av and the Genesis the verdict is still out on.
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Re: FWD vs RWD [wwest] by houdini1
Dec 30, 2008 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Dec 28, 2008 7:57 pm)

I agree with you on everything except being the most stable. I wonder if I could have a tire or alignment issue?
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Re: FWD vs RWD [wwest] by houdini1
Dec 30, 2008 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Dec 28, 2008 7:57 pm)

I had a very scary event in my LS a couple of days ago and I am curious if this has happened to anyone else.
 
I was driving up a snow packed hill with traction control engaged and this was my first experience with this car in the snow. No wheel spin but the car just got slower and slower and finally stopped...then started rolling backwards. Apparently, at that point the computer killed the engine so I am free wheeling backwards down the hill with very little control.
 
Every time I would try to slow down by braking I would begin toe slew sideways (very narrow seldom used road so there was no traffic, thank goodness). I went backwards down the hill for about 100 yards. It was not a really steep hill but it was steep enough.
 
I finally got stopped, then turned around in a driveway with no damage but...if this had been in traffic it could have been very bad. I have never had this happen to me before in any car and I have driven in snow, ice, and hills for more years that I like to remember.
 
This is a little cut thru road that saves a couple of miles and the outside temp was in the 40's. Other roadways were completely clear but this area was in deep shade so old ice had not melted. If I had had any idea the road was icy I would not have been on it.
 
Anyone else ever experience anything like this? Where did I go wrong other than being dumb enough to be on this particular road? Does anyone know why the engine stalled and is this normal? Thanks for any comments.

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