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Replying to: ncee (Dec 20, 2008 7:13 am) For the most driving comfort and quietness I aways run on summer only tires, Bridgestone Turanzas, specifically. It doesn't hurt to pressure wash the interior of the wheel well, liner, and then spray a can of undercoat into each wheelwell for sound insulation/deadening. |
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Replying to: ncee (Dec 20, 2008 7:19 am) I just had Blizzak WS-60's fitted to my 2007 Avalon XLS, one MASSIVE difference. Love the tyres, got them at firestone for 113 each, they had no 215/55/17's so they put on 225/55/17's, gives a real good ride. Very happy with them, I would suggest these for snow/ice. Cheers Sheldon
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Replying to: necro1234 (Dec 24, 2008 7:48 pm) - They ARE very smooth … - They ARE very quiet … - They RIDE real nice … but They suck in light snow, deep snow, ice … in my opinion of course. I drive in any kind of weather (salesman), and I need, want something I feel comfortable in. Something is it starts to snow and I've got 100 miles until I get home, I can drive safely, comfortably and without changing my driving style to much. I'm fine slowing down and being carful, but with these tires, I DON'T get that feeling. I have had to backdown and turn around twice so far on small hills, as I couldn't go forward anymore because of the spinning. I think I purchased these looking at the wrong things, i.e., smooth, quiet, road noise … I'm giving these tires one more snow storm, and if it's no better, I'm going to get something a bunch more aggressive - maybe even studded, and learn to live with the road noise, and ride in leu of safety and control. Skip PS I have been driving for 30 years, and most of them as an on the road salesman, and all of those years in Northern New England, and yes, ALL of those years accident feel, so to those who might be thinking, this guy just doesn't know - I think I do.
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Replying to: ncee (Dec 26, 2008 5:24 am) 30 years if driving in Northern New England and you don't yet know that there is NO tire, "bare" tire, that gives you a feeling of safety...??!! There is NO tire, NONE, that will provide a reasonable, comfortable and safe level of traction on an icy, slippery, packed snow, or ICE covered roadbed, most especially in a patently UNSAFE FWD vehicle. Yes, the extra weight over those front wheels due to the engine being in front will yield improved traction, DRIVE traction vs RWD, but now you, or the ABS/TC/VSC/EBD/BA ECU, must figure out how to apportion that traction between "drive" (leading or lagging {inadvertent compression braking} drive), and/or lateral, directional control. Much easier "computation" if "drive" is restricted to, or primarily to, the rear wheels, allocating most, or even ALL of the front tires' traction coefficient to the front, stearing, wheels/tires. Drive a Honda or Acura with SH-AWD for an understanding and STRONG feeling of safety with a properly designed drive system even with a sideways mounted engine/transaxle. Yes, learn to live with the NOISE and speed limitation, <25MPH, but of quickly and easily installing and removing tire chains. Don't contribute to the destruction of our roadbeds with studs, studs that MUST remain on, the clear majority of the time, even on a DRY roadbed. Speaking as one who has been driving around for over a week now in a F/AWD '01 RX300 with tire chains on ALL 4 wheels. Almost 2 feet of snow here at home. A White Christmas is not so nice if the family/guests cannot arrive.
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Replying to: wwest (Dec 26, 2008 10:47 am) I would not agree. I had Dunlop Grasppics on my Camry, and they were MUCH better. I read several reports from owners of the Blizzaks and they seemed to speak very higher of the tire, and all conditions? I have also had many other snow tires in the past, that I felt MUCH more comfortable with. Many that didn't cause me to change my driving habits as the weather changed. Now I'm wondering, if I would have enjoyed the Audi A6 AWD better, at least during the winter time. I'm glad I purchased the Avalon, and feel I made the right decision at the time, and in the long haul. I'm sure the Avalon will have a much better re-sell value and a much small COO (Cost of ownership) over the next few years. Skip |
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Replying to: wwest (Dec 26, 2008 10:47 am) I have noticed in several other forums you always refer to FWD as unsafe. I have owned both RWD and FWD and find both have advantages. However, I have never felt unsafe in any conditions with a FWD vehicle. Are these your conclusions or is there an article somewhere that I can read up on it? |
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| I, too, would like to read any information available about "patently unsafe FWD" vehicles. There must be some things I am missing. | |
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Replying to: tjc78 (Dec 27, 2008 9:50 am) After driving RWD's for 30 years and FWD's for the last 17 years, FWD is vastly superior to RWD in terms of both safety and handling. |
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Replying to: nimimi (Dec 27, 2008 5:01 pm) |
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