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Toyota Avalon, Future Vehicle, Sedan
#25 of 266 Avalon replacement …
Dec 09, 2008 (6:06 am)
Toyota isn't about to let up, even if they are one of the causes of the American auto problems. They are to blame, but ONLY because they make a far superior car:).
That being said, the Avalon will or MAYBE replace, but it will only be done with a much better, cooler, neater feature packed model.
You don't change something unless it's needed, and sales of the Avalon are going very well, and Toyota WILL change it and add those features asked for by it's owners.
I've told to several folks in the know, and I'm getting this for responses.
The Avalon is a wonderful car, and it's base is growing monthly. It IS digging into sales of the Lexus, and this is something Toyota is looking into.
Do we (Toyota) bring the price of the Avalon up, so as to lessen the gap between it and the Lexus?
Do we (Toyota) drop the unit from the Toyota lineup?
Do we drop it, and make a larger Camry (Camry Touring Sedan, Camry LS)?
Do we (Toyota) simply make the changes folks are asking for to the current Avalon, and adjust the price accordingly (this is the statement getting the best response), as in "If it isn't broke, don't fix it" and for sure "If it's working, don't mess with it"!
MANY Lexus owners are switching to the Avalon Limited and as they put it (Lexus Owners) "Putting the extra $10,000 - $20,000 in their pockets), if all I loose is a bit of status amongst my Lexus friends … I can live with this, and spend the extra money on a vacation, cruise or maybe a bit of extra pocket change.
The day I picked up my Avalon Touring Sedan, their were 2 doctors who had just sold and or traded their 4 year old Lexus and were picking up Avalon Limiteds. One of the doctors came over and introduce himself and said "Welcomed to the club" and walked away smiling?
My salesman said they have had a steady increase in Lexus owners coming in this year doing the same thing. He said the good news was that the dealership had some really nice clean Lexus's for re-sale (no Lexus dealer in our area) and the other was that they got to sell a lot of Avalons, which was good for the dealership.
And to the person above who said he had a Camry but wanted the Avalon but it looked so much like a Camry … blah, Blah, well I'm here to tell you - EVERYONE who has seen me with my New Avalon, has noticed it wasn't a Camry! And more then that I noticed it's not my Camry. I had 2007 Camry,which was a great car, for what it is, but is NOT a Avalon.
#26 of 266 Re: Avalon replacement … [ncee]
Dec 09, 2008 (8:16 am)
More and more these days "upscale" means NO inexpensive, CHEAP, UNSAFE, FWD or F/AWD. Since the Avalon is now being recognized as being on the bottom edge of the upscale market the FWD aspect must go....
#27 of 266 Re: Avalon replacement … What would you like to see?
Dec 09, 2008 (8:44 am)
Ok, so lets see what folks think
2010 Avalon specs:
- All new body design
- AWD (at least an option) RWD or FWD will need to stay for cost (retail) alone.
- V8 as an option, maybe the NEW limited or Touring model has the V8 option and AWD option. It would be nice if a base model had AWD, but it would make it an expensive option for a base model..
The usual options from here, radio upgrade, leather or cloth, Nav or no Nav.
Color schemes, tires / rim options,
- maybe an up-graded transmission, maybe a 7 speed?
- Add or put the coin pocket back to the left hand side.
- Make the sunroof interior panel a bit heavier (it seems so cheap to me)
- Make a plug-in for iPods and such, that has the same controls and shows the same information on screen as seen on the iPod, And make this plug-in / pocket somewhere out of the way. Maybe on the side of the center console.
I haven't had my Avalon Touring Sedan long enough to know what else I'd like to have or would change if I could. But these are a few things I'd like.
I sure would like to see a limited use of plastics in the car. I know it's to keep the weight and cost down, but it seems to make the car a bit over priced when they use plastic.
#28 of 266 Avalon Touring Sedan update - sort of
Dec 09, 2008 (1:13 pm)
A recent reply from Toyota
Thank you for contacting Toyota.
We appreciate your interest in the 2009 Avalon.
We apologize; Toyota has no plans at this time to offer the Avalon Touring model for the 2009 model year. While we can not say with any certainty, this decision may have been based on sales trends and market interests. We are however, constantly researching the market to identify popular vehicles. Your comments and interest have been documented at our National Headquarters for future model consideration.
We appreciate your interest and hope that you will continue to consider Toyota for your driving needs.
Renee Toussaint Toyota Customer Experience
#29 of 266 Avalon Replacement
Dec 09, 2008 (4:59 pm)
I think it is very interesting that a proposal for the 2010 Avalon would include V-8 power.
We, as a nation where $4.00/ gal. gas almost wrecks our economy, still propose to take an outstanding V-6 sedan package that will get an honest 30 MPG on the road, and add features to make it more expensive, more powerful, and surely less fuel efficient.
I, personally, do not need a lot more financial and environmental punishment.
#30 of 266 Re: Avalon Replacement [popsavalon]
Dec 09, 2008 (5:12 pm)
Everything points toward the Avalon going away.... Toyota has no need to put a V8 in a FWD sedan and if the Av goes RWD the price will be way too close to a Lexus GS to have both in the lineup. Heck the Avalon surely steals a few sales away from Lexus as it is. I personally would hate to see the Av go... however large cars and SUVs are still not selling as people will not forget the $4.00 gas. (even though the local station to me is $1.49 right now .
#31 of 266 re: Avalon replacement … What would you like to see?
Dec 10, 2008 (3:20 am)
Ok, I'm with you there, so what is it that you'd like to see the new Avalon look like, be like, have or not have?
So if they change it enough, and make it more money (still less then a Lexus), it will still sell, and THEN, maybe the New Larger Camry (the replacement for the Avalon) will sell enough, that they will drop the Avalon all together. Sounds silly, and if this was an American company, I would stick to my thoughts here, but for Toyota, it is a stretch.
Now I agree, but don't like it, they will likely drop the Avalon, ONLY because it has been around long enough, and they won't likely get the sells from it that they WILL from a newly re-designed and named Avalon ("What's your choice for the new name?)
I'm just stating my thoughts … what are yours?
#32 of 266 re: Avalon replacement … What would you like to see? [ncee]
Dec 10, 2008 (11:50 pm)
New "avalon" = Toyota "GS350".
#33 of 266 Avalon Replacement
Dec 11, 2008 (7:34 am)
"Toyota GS-350". I have to ask the question a 2nd time. Why would I want to buy an Avalon replacement that cost $10K more and gets 10% less mileage?
#34 of 266 re: Avalon replacement … What would you like to see? [wwest]
Dec 11, 2008 (8:31 am)
Could it be a version of this?
I am holding on to my XLS 2000 anxiously awaiting the 2009 replacement to see if I want to stay with the Avalon or go elsewhere. Have received excellent service from the 2000 and looking for about the same type car to replace in a 2010. I am also considering a Lexus but like the extra interior room in the Avalon. Of course, the 460 Lexus is available, but that is more than I want to spend. So the bottom line is, I am hoping and waiting for a new version Avalon with luxury, intenior room, dependability, and new style with quality body side molding.