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#226 of 266 Avalon's length
Jan 01, 2010 (4:48 pm)
If Toyota is indeed revamping the Avalon for 2011, I am hoping they design it shorter than the 2010 Avalon. My 2003 Avalon is 191.9 inches in length but the 2010 Avalon has grown to 197.2 inches in length - 6.3 inches longer than the 2003 Avalon. I question Toyota's reasoning when I compare the Avalon to a 2010 Lexus ES (191.1) and Lexus GS (190.7).
I love my 2003 Avalon and want to purchase a new Avalon but do not want to drive a really big car. I definitely do not want the Avalon to turn into my parents 1980's something Oldsmobile "Love Boats." Do other people have this concern?
#227 of 266 Re: Avalon's length [cjutson]
Jan 01, 2010 (7:44 pm)
I don't have that concern. One of the reasons I bought the Avalon (2008) is because of its size. I want it to ride like a big car, not a jumpy little car. I've always felt that way and I guess it's because the car I grew up with in high school was a 1951 Chrysler.
#228 of 266 Re: Avalon's length [cjutson]
Jan 02, 2010 (8:30 am)
I do not have a concern. I think most Avalon owners (me included) buy them for the roominess and comfort. There are a lot of nice, smaller cars out there. Why hope for the Avalon to join them?
#229 of 266 Re: Avalon's length [cjutson]
Jan 02, 2010 (8:57 am)
Big, Long and Lean … that's how I like my cars (and women:).
I had 3 Buick Park Avenues before purchasing my 2008 Avalon, and would look at other cars, if they choose to make it smaller.
Heck, with 4 adults on a 2 week vacation, it was much tighter then I liked:(
The trunk was barely large enough for the suitcases, and this is with a few pieces in the back seat.
Like someone said, there are plenty of very nice smaller cars
(Camry, Hyundai, BMW 3 series, Audi A4, VW CC anyone), so if you want smaller, get a car designed to be smaller.
This waiting is killing me… I'd love to see some sneak pictures, specs on what might be the 2011 Avalon.
#230 of 266 Avalon's length
Jan 02, 2010 (8:59 am)
I love my 2003 Avalon and just hated to see it grown, to what I remember, as my parents Oldmobile "love boats". When comparing the 2010 Avalon length to Maxima, Lexus models, and Buick Lucerne, only the Lucerne is longer than Avalon. The others are in the 190 - 192 range.
#231 of 266 Re: 2011 Avalon
Jan 02, 2010 (9:12 am)
Not sure about everyone, but MANY folks will likely look at the new Buick Lacrosse as a great choice. Now it's not a Toyota, but it is getting some VERY nice reviews.
If they sell many, that is that many less Toyota will sell, as most people won't trade-in a 1 year old car, unless they don't like it, or the 2011 Avalon is something REAL sweet.
#232 of 266 Re: Avalon's length [cjutson]
Jan 02, 2010 (9:14 am)
Long time ago (1980s) I owned a Buick Park Avenue. I have the 2009 Limited and it's the Best riding car besides the large Caddy back in the day. I love my Avalon because of its ride and comfort. If I were to buy something upwards it would be a Lexus 460. Yeah I like the gas mileage on the Avalon but the ride reminds me of the Park Avenue. Personally I would like to see more room on the passenger side seat going back more. The trunk has great room. I am not a Lexus wanna-be and could afford a Lexus but I think for the return on investment you can't beat the Avalon. Only 8000 miles on my 2009 and I can see it going a long time with proper care. I can understand cjustin concerns but I think Toyota will will come out with another line rather than change the Avalon to be a "Love Boat".
#233 of 266 Re: Avalon's length [tfelton]
Jan 02, 2010 (10:38 am)
I do not have that concern either. If you want a smaller car buy the Camry or Lexus ES. I transport clients in my Avalon and they love the room. The Avalon has approximately the same interior dimensions as a Lexus LS. That is great as I can't afford to pay $75K for any car. I applaud Toyota for building the Avalon. Many people need a full size car at a reasonable price - if you call $40K reasonable.
I have read comments on this forum that Toyota can't afford to have the Avalon eating into the sales of the LS. Are you kidding me, the additional $35K in price would keep me and a lot of other potential buyers from even considering an LS. I would be forced to go to another brand if the Avalon were to be discontinued.
As I have said before, what Toyota really needs to do is advertise the Avalon and get the dealers to stock more than 3 or 4 cars. They have a real winner and it would sell if they would put some effort into marketing it. It is a crime that they don't.
#234 of 266 Re: Avalon's length [lsunday]
Jan 02, 2010 (12:05 pm)
I agree 100% with you. Toyota should be putting more effort into marketing the Avalon. I remember back in early spring 2005, when this current, 3rd generation debuted, there was one television commercial. I specifically remember the commercial focusing on the rain sensing wipers on the Limited model. This was the only major advertising on national TV for this current generation Avalon. After 2005, Toyota has not really brought much attention to the Avalon. Now there is zero % financing available on new 2010 models. This is about the only advertising the Avalon has received (along with the other Toyota vehicles being offered with the same financing specials).
Also, as you mentioned, dealers should have more than 3-4 Avalons on their lots for sale. I don't think I've ever visited a Toyota dealership with more than 5 Avalons available on the lot! Dealerships should have a good selection of each model offered along with a good selection of interior/exterior color combinations. I realize the Avalon isn't Toyota's #1 seller. However, it would be nice to have more choices of the Avalon to see at dealerships.
It seems as though Toyota is really pushing the Limited model. Most dealers in the New England region only have Avalons in the Limited model on their lots. I've noticed this since 2008, when the Avalon received a minor redesign. Occaisonally, an XL or XLS model will roll in and sell rather quickly. Does anyone else notice this in different parts of the country?
#235 of 266 Re: Avalon's length [ntassistant]
Jan 02, 2010 (12:26 pm)
Here in Arizona we see mostly XLS models on the dealer lots. Those are more than likely white, silver or black. I finally located a Silver Pine Mica Limited and bought it before anyone else could. That was after a year of scouring the internet and dealer lots. I didn't want to order one before I saw one up close and personal. I have had many positive comments about the car and the color. I love it.