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#194 of 266 Re: 2010 Avalon [tjc78]
Dec 17, 2009 (3:17 pm)
Here's my take on avalon. First you can't compare it to the Camry or the ES. It is rated a large car by the EPA. The real question is if Toyota needs or wants a flagship, and if they do will they be happy with a mid-size Camry in that role.I think the Avalon needs to be a large car and needs to be even more luxurious. Toyota worries about encroaching sales of the LS, but people who want a Lexus don't shop in the Toyota store, and the two cars are already more than $20k apart. Plenty of room for more Avalon in that gap. The Limited could be made more luxurious with only modest upgrades to the exterior. Perhaps better/larger wheels and a chrome strip. Inside they need to lose all the hard and painted surfaces and add a motorized tilt/telescope steering wheel and touch screen navigation. It would still top out near $40K.
#195 of 266 Re: Avalon vs Buick LaCrosse [popsavalon]
Dec 17, 2009 (3:29 pm)
Right you are. Why do people compare mid size cars to Full size cars? No one questions the 5 and 7 series or the E and S class, so why the Camry/Avalon equation. This is Toyota, the largest car company in the world. Are the mid-size Camry or the new Lacrosse really flagships? Do you think GM would settle for the LaCrosse flagship if they had the development money to redo the Lucerne. I remember when their Lesabre was the best selling Full Size car in America. That market is still there, and Toyota's Avalon is the right formula to fill that need. Don't be fooled by bean counters marketing. Full size cars may be under pressure, but they'll be back, including a new Q, or do people think the mid-size M35 is really Nissan's idea of a Flag Ship?
#196 of 266 Re: Alternatives to the Avalon [mcclearyfl]
Dec 18, 2009 (11:58 am)
I agree with you, but there are additional synergies. Avalon is traditionally built on a former (stretched) Camry platform which means old, long ago paid for tooling. Also, despite Avalon being a North American only model it shares bits with other Toyotas such as the Austrailian Aurion. Besides Toyota cannot afford its' only large car North American offering to be a rear wheel drive LS that's starts at $60K plus.
#197 of 266 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon? [ntassistant]
Dec 18, 2009 (12:33 pm)
Mystery solved. Toyota wasn't ready with a new 2010 Avalon due to economic uncertainty and there own internal slow down. They simply delayed the introduction to an early 2011 that comes out in Feb/March, and allowed themselves a few months of 2010 production of the existing model and a few more months to amortize the existing tooling. Incidentally, and also based on economics, this longer model life is a prelude to the future from not only Toyota but other car companies as well.
#198 of 266 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon? [toyman2]
Dec 18, 2009 (3:59 pm)
Along with many other individuals who like the Avalon, I am very curious to see the new generation! I think you're definitely correct about the time it will probably debut. My only hope is that I will not regret buying a 2010 once seeing the redesigned generation! I like the current generation, which is why I bought a 2010. But, I have a feeling the new generation will be a huge improvement over the current generation.
Spring is fast approaching, so we'll just have to wait for the details!
#199 of 266 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon? [ntassistant]
Dec 19, 2009 (9:34 am)
I think, IF they are coming out with a new Avalon, it MIGHT get announced in early spring - FOR fall delivery, But I wouldn't be surprised at all if we hear nothing until late spring or early fall, unless of course they have already started to slow down on production of the 2010 Avalon.
It wouldn't make much sense to me, for folks to buy a 2010 in the spring, if Toyota is talking about the 2011, again unless the 2011 doesn't become available until late 2011, and or, unless the price difference is worth it, or they don't have any 2010 left.
I don't see Toyota making a 2010 Avalon because of all the cost associated with it, and then coming out with the 2011 Avalon just a few months later.
#200 of 266 When are the BIG spring car shows?
Dec 19, 2009 (9:37 am)
Or for the fact, what are the dates for any car shows in 2011. Based on these, we can start guessing when Toyota might announce a new style Avalon.
#201 of 266 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon? [ncee]
Dec 19, 2009 (7:17 pm)
I'm trying to remember exactly, but Toyota published production schedules in September that showed the 2010 being built only October 2009 thru February of 2010. That's a shortened production season by about 3-4 months so that the new 2011 model could begin in earnest starting in March. Also, if I recall didn't the current model come out in March 2004 as a 2005? This timing would be consistent for Toyota. I really think a fall intro is unlikely due to the shortened 2010 production scedule.
#202 of 266 2nd Gen (00-04) vs 3rd Gen (05-10) Avalon
Dec 20, 2009 (9:30 pm)
I am a current owner of a 03 Avalon XLw/leather,power seats,alloys and moonroof. I am about to hit 80,000 miles. This is my number 2 family car. I already own a new SUV as the number 1 family car. I am contemplating trading up to a new 10 Ltd or even a used 06-09 Ltd. I have spent money only on regular maintenance,front brakes and a new set of tires in its first 80,000 miles. This tells you that I am happy with my old Avalon. As you might expect, it will cost me $10K to $25K to go to an 06 + or 10 Limited. For all you 2nd and/or 3rd generation owners- Is the 3rd gen Avalon that much better than the older gen 2 Avy? I am concerned as the mileage is getting up there that I finally may have to start putting money into my 03. Any thoughts as to reliability of the 2 generations or probale upcoming expenses would be greatly appreciated,
#203 of 266 Power or Manual Rear Window Sunshade
Dec 21, 2009 (11:45 am)
As some of you may have read in my previous posts, I recently purchased a 2010 Avalon XLS. The one feature I wish I had is a rear window sunshade. Whether it be manual retracting, or power, I do not mind. Does anyone know of any reputable aftermarket brands? I assume the power shade that is standard on the Limited model could not be installed on my XLS model. If anyone has any advice, please post. Thank you!