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#20 of 266 Re: Avalon Replacement? [rpfingsten]
Nov 07, 2008 (12:12 pm)
I got the same reaction at my local dealership. However, if the past is any indication, the 2009 model should be the last year for this generation of the Toyota Avalon. The first generation was from 1995 through 1999, the second generation from 2000 through 2004, and now the third generation from 2005 through 2009. I believe we will see something new for the fourth generation in 2010. I am wondering if it will be something like the Crown on the existing Avalon, Camry, and Lexus ES350 chassis. Would like to hear what others are projecting.
#21 of 266 Re: Avalon Replacement? [geo123]
Nov 07, 2008 (12:42 pm)
All things look as if its being dropped. They already, dropped the Touring model and everything I have read leans toward a stretched Camry as the replacement. Remember, large cars took quite a hit with the high gas prices, although its coming down I don't think people will soon forget.
#22 of 266 Avalon/Camry comparison
Nov 14, 2008 (1:42 pm)
I had a 2001 Avalon which I dearly loved, but since it was my first Toyota, and being a former owner of only American made cars, I got scared when the mileage went up to 100,000 and traded it off for a 2006 Camry. I have never been satisfied with my Camry because I loved my Avalon so much. The Camry is a great car, but just not the quality of my Avalon. I have thought about getting a new Avalon but feel they look so similar to the Camrys, why pay the price when they look just alike and want to wait until you can visibly see the difference. Does anyone know when the body style of the Avalon is going to change?
#23 of 266 The 2010 Avalon
Nov 16, 2008 (9:18 pm)
Here is the latest Avalon rumor...... the source is a relative (at Toyota in Japan) of one of the service writers at my dealership: The Avalon, as we all know it, is history for 2010.
The word at Toyota is simply that the global slowdown means that every model line must justify its own production. There is no room for error. While the Avalon is not expensive to build as a car based on the parts, the assembly line costs per unit are far in excess of what is reasonable. Volume is too low. So, no more of the current design will be made after 2009, and even this MY run may be cut short.
The good news here is that Toyota wants a car that will get what buyers there are into the showroom, so a "replacement" Avalon may be coming. Exactly what that car will be is still under discussion. There are other Toyota products that could be added to the current US models. We have seen them here on Edmunds.com. Or they might modify a Camry...somehow. No decisions yet but Toyota is thinking.... Could they keep the name? Maybe. But the car will be very different from what we now enjoy as the '05 to '09 Avalon.
All this is rumor, of course..
#24 of 266 Re: Avalon Replacement? [geo123]
Nov 24, 2008 (8:23 pm)
If Toyota goes with an AWD version of the new Avalon, sales will go through the roof and I would be one of the first ones waiting. Any news from anyone??
#25 of 266 Avalon replacement …
Dec 09, 2008 (6:06 am)
Toyota isn't about to let up, even if they are one of the causes of the American auto problems. They are to blame, but ONLY because they make a far superior car:).
That being said, the Avalon will or MAYBE replace, but it will only be done with a much better, cooler, neater feature packed model.
You don't change something unless it's needed, and sales of the Avalon are going very well, and Toyota WILL change it and add those features asked for by it's owners.
I've told to several folks in the know, and I'm getting this for responses.
The Avalon is a wonderful car, and it's base is growing monthly. It IS digging into sales of the Lexus, and this is something Toyota is looking into.
Do we (Toyota) bring the price of the Avalon up, so as to lessen the gap between it and the Lexus?
Do we (Toyota) drop the unit from the Toyota lineup?
Do we drop it, and make a larger Camry (Camry Touring Sedan, Camry LS)?
Do we (Toyota) simply make the changes folks are asking for to the current Avalon, and adjust the price accordingly (this is the statement getting the best response), as in "If it isn't broke, don't fix it" and for sure "If it's working, don't mess with it"!
MANY Lexus owners are switching to the Avalon Limited and as they put it (Lexus Owners) "Putting the extra $10,000 - $20,000 in their pockets), if all I loose is a bit of status amongst my Lexus friends … I can live with this, and spend the extra money on a vacation, cruise or maybe a bit of extra pocket change.
The day I picked up my Avalon Touring Sedan, their were 2 doctors who had just sold and or traded their 4 year old Lexus and were picking up Avalon Limiteds. One of the doctors came over and introduce himself and said "Welcomed to the club" and walked away smiling?
My salesman said they have had a steady increase in Lexus owners coming in this year doing the same thing. He said the good news was that the dealership had some really nice clean Lexus's for re-sale (no Lexus dealer in our area) and the other was that they got to sell a lot of Avalons, which was good for the dealership.
And to the person above who said he had a Camry but wanted the Avalon but it looked so much like a Camry … blah, Blah, well I'm here to tell you - EVERYONE who has seen me with my New Avalon, has noticed it wasn't a Camry! And more then that I noticed it's not my Camry. I had 2007 Camry,which was a great car, for what it is, but is NOT a Avalon.
#26 of 266 Re: Avalon replacement … [ncee]
Dec 09, 2008 (8:16 am)
More and more these days "upscale" means NO inexpensive, CHEAP, UNSAFE, FWD or F/AWD. Since the Avalon is now being recognized as being on the bottom edge of the upscale market the FWD aspect must go....
#27 of 266 Re: Avalon replacement … What would you like to see?
Dec 09, 2008 (8:44 am)
Ok, so lets see what folks think
2010 Avalon specs:
- All new body design
- AWD (at least an option) RWD or FWD will need to stay for cost (retail) alone.
- V8 as an option, maybe the NEW limited or Touring model has the V8 option and AWD option. It would be nice if a base model had AWD, but it would make it an expensive option for a base model..
The usual options from here, radio upgrade, leather or cloth, Nav or no Nav.
Color schemes, tires / rim options,
- maybe an up-graded transmission, maybe a 7 speed?
- Add or put the coin pocket back to the left hand side.
- Make the sunroof interior panel a bit heavier (it seems so cheap to me)
- Make a plug-in for iPods and such, that has the same controls and shows the same information on screen as seen on the iPod, And make this plug-in / pocket somewhere out of the way. Maybe on the side of the center console.
I haven't had my Avalon Touring Sedan long enough to know what else I'd like to have or would change if I could. But these are a few things I'd like.
I sure would like to see a limited use of plastics in the car. I know it's to keep the weight and cost down, but it seems to make the car a bit over priced when they use plastic.
#28 of 266 Avalon Touring Sedan update - sort of
Dec 09, 2008 (1:13 pm)
A recent reply from Toyota
Thank you for contacting Toyota.
We appreciate your interest in the 2009 Avalon.
We apologize; Toyota has no plans at this time to offer the Avalon Touring model for the 2009 model year. While we can not say with any certainty, this decision may have been based on sales trends and market interests. We are however, constantly researching the market to identify popular vehicles. Your comments and interest have been documented at our National Headquarters for future model consideration.
We appreciate your interest and hope that you will continue to consider Toyota for your driving needs.
Renee Toussaint Toyota Customer Experience
#29 of 266 Avalon Replacement
Dec 09, 2008 (4:59 pm)
I think it is very interesting that a proposal for the 2010 Avalon would include V-8 power.
We, as a nation where $4.00/ gal. gas almost wrecks our economy, still propose to take an outstanding V-6 sedan package that will get an honest 30 MPG on the road, and add features to make it more expensive, more powerful, and surely less fuel efficient.
I, personally, do not need a lot more financial and environmental punishment.