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#150 of 266 Re: Avalon hidden defect [charlie89]
Nov 19, 2009 (4:13 am)
No issues like this with my 2008?
As for a class action law suit? With only 3 weeks on the car, my guess is (with a bit of toughness) the dealership will take the car back. Let them and Toyota Motor Corp., know "It's take it back, or I file a class action lawsuit"! My guess is, you won't own the car much longer, as it will be easier and cheaper to take it back, then the cost of a law suit.
Now, if in fact you and others find that this is a problem, and Toyota is ignoring it, then please, on the behalf of Toyota customers everywhere … get some action taken!
PS This won't bow well, (the bad press) if they are coming out with an all new model for 2011. It will look like the 2010 was a problem child, and so, they re-did it for 2011, in hopes of fixing it.
As oppose to, coming out with a new model, because it was time for a change.
#151 of 266 Re: Avalon hidden defect [jemanner]
Nov 19, 2009 (5:21 am)
Toyotal never buys a car back without arbitration.
The thing is that Toyota knows that the new transmissions shift into high gear at too low a speed so the car is going to lug at times, yet they do it to promote better gas mileage without alerting the customer that their car is going to rumble at times.
#152 of 266 Re: Avalon hidden defect [jemanner
Nov 19, 2009 (5:32 am)
Not Toyota, the dealer.
Here in Maine, most dealers (because of state laws), have to take back, or work hard to satisfy customer with problem vehicles.
Now, this may not be easy, but if one is to complain hard enough, you should be successful.
Hell, it's in the dealers best interest.
Is there another car, that this dealership sells, that you can trade-in towards? I would think it would be in the dealers best interest to make you happy.
#153 of 266 Re: Avalon hidden defect [charlie89]
Nov 19, 2009 (5:37 am)
Almost all newer cars do this. My '06 Avalon (my '09 Genesis, and my GFs '08 Elantra also) did it at times (or would hunt between the gears) if it is that much of an annoyance, simply put the gear selector in manual and lock it in 3rd gear on the roads you are having a problem. My car only did it on one particular stretch of road where there was a slight hill that you I had to watch my speed on because there was always a patrolman waiting.
#154 of 266 Re: Avalon hidden defect [tjc78]
Nov 19, 2009 (5:57 am)
Sure sounds like the transmisssion is reluctant to disengage the torque converter and/or drop down a gear. Probably the designers attempting to squeeze every last MPG out of the car for marketing reasons, and to up their CAFE average. As all modern transmissions are electronically controlled, I would wager a simple reprogramning of the PCM will remedy the issue. IF they will do this, another story.
#155 of 266 Re: Avalon hidden defect [jemanner]
Nov 19, 2009 (6:28 am)
The way Toyota's transmissions are programmed has long been a discussion here on Edmunds and many other places. Really the car tells you how it wants to be driven. IMO you get used to it. They are certainly tuned for FE as you suggest, they upshift early and often to keeps the revs as low as possible. Its not just Toyota, my 09 Genesis has what seems to be the exact same trans logic as my '06 Avalon even though they are different trans (06 was a 5 speed, '09 is a 6).
#156 of 266 Re: Avalon hidden defect [ncee]
Nov 19, 2009 (6:50 am)
Class action?? you gotta get more folks to complain - a class action of one is not gonna do it.
No problems with my 2009 -- and cannot see what they changed to the 2010. Can some enlighten me what they did for an upgrade on the 2010.
I gotta start using the manual shift --- smooth running car so far with fantastic gas mileage. just had my first oil change.
#157 of 266 Re: Avalon hidden defect [jemanner]
Nov 24, 2009 (9:52 am)
Adversely affects FE so that would probably be a violation of EPA regulations.
#158 of 266 Re: 2011 Avalon? [ntassistant]
Nov 25, 2009 (5:24 pm)
What is the lastest news about the future of the Avalon? Will it be remodeled in 2011 or discontinued?
#159 of 266 Re: End of 2010 model production date? [ntassistant]
Nov 25, 2009 (6:14 pm)
Has anyone heard an update on whether Toyota will re-style the Avalon or will they discontinue it in 2011?