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2010 Toyota Avalon

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Re: 2009 Avalon Prices [kq0b1] by 06graylimited
Sep 19, 2009 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: kq0b1 (Sep 17, 2009 9:33 am)

I would be surprised to do as well right now. Around here, when you walk through a Toyota dealership, you might see 120 "clunkers" and maybe 60 to 70 new Toyotas. And these are at dealerships that typically had 300 to 400 new Toyotas in stock before the cash for clunkers program. I bought mine right before the program started. Unfortunately, I did not have a gas guzzling clunker to trade in since I have bought fuel efficient cars all my driving life. Once again, no free lunch ($4,500.00) for me.
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End of 2010 model production date? by ntassistant
Oct 14, 2009 (11:05 am)
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Does anyone know approximately when Toyota will stop production of the 2010 Avalon? Toyota typically introduces new models/styles in early March, just in time for spring. I would like to order a 2010 because I like this generation's style. However, I am hesitant to do so because the 2011 should be on it's way, and I may like the new generation much more! Any new information on the 2011 model?
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Avalon hidden defect by charlie89
Nov 18, 2009 (3:30 pm)
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I bought a 2010 Avalon 3 weeks ago. It intermittently rumbles at 35-40mph when is drops into high gear and lugs the engine. The Toyotal field rep says this is normal for the Avalon (as well as other new Toyota cars) but most people don't complain about it. They don't want to publicize this because they wouldn't sell as many cars. Please let me know if you notice this: I'm trying to file a class action lawsuit about what I consider a deceptive practice by Toyota: my email address in cmorinpol.net. Thanks.
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Re: Avalon hidden defect [charlie89] by jemanner
Nov 18, 2009 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: charlie89 (Nov 18, 2009 3:30 pm)

Toyota seems to having a bit of grief with this transmission. Have read where they are proud of engineering it with substantially fewer parts than would be typical with a 6-speed automatic, but this may have come at a price.
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Re: Avalon hidden defect [charlie89] by ncee
Nov 19, 2009 (4:13 am)
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Replying to: charlie89 (Nov 18, 2009 3:30 pm)

No issues like this with my 2008?
 
As for a class action law suit? With only 3 weeks on the car, my guess is (with a bit of toughness) the dealership will take the car back. Let them and Toyota Motor Corp., know "It's take it back, or I file a class action lawsuit"! My guess is, you won't own the car much longer, as it will be easier and cheaper to take it back, then the cost of a law suit.
 
Now, if in fact you and others find that this is a problem, and Toyota is ignoring it, then please, on the behalf of Toyota customers everywhere … get some action taken!
 
Skip
 
PS This won't bow well, (the bad press) if they are coming out with an all new model for 2011. It will look like the 2010 was a problem child, and so, they re-did it for 2011, in hopes of fixing it.
 
As oppose to, coming out with a new model, because it was time for a change.
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Re: Avalon hidden defect [jemanner] by charlie89
Nov 19, 2009 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: jemanner (Nov 18, 2009 3:56 pm)

Toyotal never buys a car back without arbitration.
The thing is that Toyota knows that the new transmissions shift into high gear at too low a speed so the car is going to lug at times, yet they do it to promote better gas mileage without alerting the customer that their car is going to rumble at times.
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Re: Avalon hidden defect [jemanner by ncee
Nov 19, 2009 (5:32 am)
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Not Toyota, the dealer.
 
Here in Maine, most dealers (because of state laws), have to take back, or work hard to satisfy customer with problem vehicles.
 
Now, this may not be easy, but if one is to complain hard enough, you should be successful.
 
Hell, it's in the dealers best interest.
 
Is there another car, that this dealership sells, that you can trade-in towards? I would think it would be in the dealers best interest to make you happy.
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Re: Avalon hidden defect [charlie89] by tjc78
Nov 19, 2009 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: charlie89 (Nov 19, 2009 5:21 am)

Almost all newer cars do this. My '06 Avalon (my '09 Genesis, and my GFs '08 Elantra also) did it at times (or would hunt between the gears) if it is that much of an annoyance, simply put the gear selector in manual and lock it in 3rd gear on the roads you are having a problem. My car only did it on one particular stretch of road where there was a slight hill that you I had to watch my speed on because there was always a patrolman waiting.
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Re: Avalon hidden defect [tjc78] by jemanner
Nov 19, 2009 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Nov 19, 2009 5:37 am)

Sure sounds like the transmisssion is reluctant to disengage the torque converter and/or drop down a gear. Probably the designers attempting to squeeze every last MPG out of the car for marketing reasons, and to up their CAFE average. As all modern transmissions are electronically controlled, I would wager a simple reprogramning of the PCM will remedy the issue. IF they will do this, another story.
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Re: Avalon hidden defect [jemanner] by tjc78
Nov 19, 2009 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: jemanner (Nov 19, 2009 5:57 am)

The way Toyota's transmissions are programmed has long been a discussion here on Edmunds and many other places. Really the car tells you how it wants to be driven. IMO you get used to it. They are certainly tuned for FE as you suggest, they upshift early and often to keeps the revs as low as possible. Its not just Toyota, my 09 Genesis has what seems to be the exact same trans logic as my '06 Avalon even though they are different trans (06 was a 5 speed, '09 is a 6).

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