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#116 of 266 Love our Avalons
Aug 08, 2009 (2:51 am)
We own 2 Toyota Avalons - a 2004 XLS and a 2008 Limited. We used to own Buicks but the lack of quality killed that. Both of our Avalons are tremendous cars and are very high quality. I traded a Lexus ES 330 on the 2008 Avalon Limited due to the lack of interior room in the Lexus - especially in the rear - and a very rough transmission. I keep hearing rumors that Toyota is thinking of canceling the Avalon due to lack of sales. If the sales are lagging it is Toyota's own fault. How long has it been since you saw an Avalon advertised. They never advertise them. They have one of the highest rated full size sedans in this country and they don't advertise it. It doesn't make any sense to me. Instead of killing it they need to promote it.
#117 of 266 Re: Love our Avalons [lsunday]- Air Shocks?
Aug 08, 2009 (3:10 am)
I couldn't agree more.
We may find,that what the real reason is, the number of sales the Avalon STEALS from Lexus, is the reason they may discontinue the Avalon. A very silly reason, but a reason none the less.
If you look at ad's by your area Toyota dealer, you rarely see the Avalon in the ad's, and like you said. I can't remember the last time (or the first time for that matter), that I saw an Avalon TV commercial?
As much as I like my 2008 Avalon Touring Edition, I will say, it's no where near as comfortable as I'd like.
So far, in the 53 + cars I have owned over the years, my most comfortable have been:
1) 1966 Pontiac Catalina
2) 1968 Catalina Coupe
3) 1996 Buick Park Avenue Limited (with Velvet type lounge chairs for seats)
4) 1998 Buick Park Avenue
5) 1968 Cutless Supreme
6) 2008 Toyota Avalon
Now most of the cars ahead of the Avalon were much larger cars, and much heavier cars.
Has anyone tried Air Shocks on the Avalon, and if so, what did you think?
#120 of 266 Re: 2010 Avalon … if only [ncee]
Aug 08, 2009 (5:16 am)
According to Wikipedia,"the Crown Majesta was introduced as a more substantial alternative to the smaller Toyota Crown. The Crown Majesta was developed for the Japanese Domestic Market, as a more reserved, conservative alternative to the sporty Toyota Celsior [Lexus LS 400] in 1989."
The Toyota Crown Majesta is a full-size premium luxury automobile, similar to the Jaguar XJ, Mercedes S-Class, Infiniti Q and BMW 7 series.
Nonetheless, unless Toyota can differentiate and justify the price premium for the Avalon over the Camry XLE V-6 they will have an uphill task of trying to unload them. With new entrants such as the Ford Taurus/SHO, Buick Lacrosse CXS, and Hyundai Genesis Toyota must up the ante (read, more appealing styling) to effectively compete in this market segment.
#121 of 266 2010 Avalons...more
Aug 08, 2009 (8:14 pm)
Here is the thinking from the home office in Japan on the 2010's (from my information):
The plan was for a completely new car, following the typical 5 year model run. The problems came early as Avalon sales slowed and an RWD platform was deemed necessary, but too expensive. Then Toyota saw the world slowdown coming and actually ceased all redesign efforts. There was no real good choice except continue the present design or drop the model completely. And remember, even though the Avalon is a low production car they are built in Kentucky with the Camry. They actually make a little money per unit and attract buyers to the showroom. If they buy a Camry, ok, but the Avalon got them to the dealership.
Also, most Toyota execs do not feel the Avalon steals from the Lexus 3xx series. Lexus is a name you want, Avalons are Toyotas. We know some switching goes on, we read it here on Edmunds.com. But for most shoppers there is no real dilemma in which to choose.
For the near term, what we see is what we will get. Or nothing. The replacement car needs to built here, not Japan. Ultimately, a new model will replace the current Avalon, but until the world economy improves don't expect much. Avalon is falling behind in the sheet metal design but the car is winner in every other category, my opinion.... Enjoy your Avy's, great cars.
#122 of 266 Re: 2010 Avalon … if only [bwia]
Aug 08, 2009 (10:54 pm)
The justification for the price is the interior room. The Avalon is a full size car with plenty of interior room. That is one of the main reasons that I buy them. Quality and Ride are the others. The new Buick LaCrosse is a beautiful car but try sitting in the back seat of it and then try the Avalon. Your question will be answered. The Avalon is just slightly smaller inside than a Lexus LS but much larger than an ES or GS. Lexus does not build a car that compares to the Avalon. I transport clients in my Avalon. They love it for the room they have.
#123 of 266 Re: 2010 Avalons...more [fin]
Aug 09, 2009 (7:49 am)
On the other hand didn't Toyota just announce that a new RWD 2 seat sports car is currently moving from the drawing board and into production..??
Personally I would expect to soon see a Toyota version of the Lexus GS series (new I4, 6-speed, RWD and maybe DFI..??) to replace the Avalon.
#124 of 266 Re: Love our Avalons [lsunday]- Air Shocks? [ncee]
Aug 09, 2009 (8:51 am)
The key difference in ride between the Touring model and other Avalons is the tires and rims, not the suspension. The Touring uses low profile, "performance" tires that give a much rougher ride. Switch to a higher profile tire and you'll get a smoother ride.
#125 of 266 2011 Toyota Avalon?
Aug 09, 2009 (3:13 pm)
Hello, I am brand new to Edmunds.com, but I'm quite familiar with the blogs and enjoy reading posts regarding most Toyota vehicles. I have always been a big fan of Toyota products. Last year, I drove (rented) a 2008 Avalon Touring. I absolutely fell in love with this car as it was the nicest handling vehicles that I had ever driven. I currently own a 2004 Corolla, so driving the Avalon was a huge difference! As we all know, the Touring model was discontinued for the 2009 model year. I was very disappointed when I learned this, because I was considering to upgrade/purchase a new Avalon (I liked the Touring model because of the dark charcoal interior). For 2009, Toyota introduced the dark charcoal interior to the XLS and Limited models. I still am considering to purchase an XLS with dark charcoal interior, but I cannot find one in my region (New England) with the color combination that I'm looking for, Blue Mirage on dark charcoal. My local dealer said it takes 4+ months to order one. Does this sound right? It seems like the dark charcoal interior is very hard to come by. I'm not sure if it's popular or not in other areas of the country, but it is very practical living in New England with the road salt associated with the long winter months!
Okay, I'll get to the point! I have been reading many speculations of the Avalon being completely discontinued. If it is going to be discontinued, I find it interesting that Toyota is going to release a 2010 model. This will be the 6th year we have the 3rd generation Avalon. Most dealers in my region only had an average of 1-3, 2009 new Avalons on their lot since they arrived in September 2008. It seems like production has been strictly reduced. This is why I'm so surprised a 2010 will be built. If Toyota is going to discontinue the Avalon, why are they continuing production for another model year? Everything is a big mystery!