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#258 of 266 Re: 2010 Avalon Recall(s)? [jaxs1]
Jan 16, 2010 (11:59 am)
These articles definitely raise eyebrows! These incidents with sudden accelearation involve mostly 3rd generation Avalons (not the Camry, Prius, and other models affected by the floor mat getting stuck in the gas pedal). Thus, ruling out the floor mat as being the cause of these incidents. The cause of the incident in Texas has not yet been determined, according to the article. Article mentions the floor mats of the 2008 Avalon involved in this accident were found in the trunk. Not sure if anyone will be able to determine if sudden, unexpected acceleration was the cause of this particular accident. But they definitely can't blame the floor mats!
I heard that Toyota planned to install a new feature that will shut the engine off if both the accelerator and gas pedal are pushed at the same time. Not sure if and when Toyota will install this feature on 2010 and older cars that were affected by the so called recall, due to the floor mats and gas pedal being too long. I also read that Toyota will have this feature standard on all 2011 models.
#259 of 266 Re: 2010 Avalon Recall(s)? [ntassistant]
Jan 16, 2010 (4:50 pm)
"I heard that Toyota planned to install a new feature that will shut the engine off if both the accelerator and gas pedal are pushed at the same time."
I can see big issues been caused by such thinking, something happens like a deer runs in front of you and you panic, you pump the brake and pedal at the same time while trying to avoid making deer jerky and your engine shuts off....that is a friggin disaster waiting to happen.
There is an old feature to turn the engine off, its called an ignition key, no need to push any pedals, just turn it to the right and magically the engine shuts off.
I also see this idea as been crazy in that if you got a sudden burst of acceleration, say in a corner, and you shut that motor down suddenly, it would cause far more accidents and deaths than any good.
Toyota cannot possibly be this stupid.
#260 of 266 Re: 2010 Avalon Recall(s)? [necro1234]
Jan 16, 2010 (8:07 pm)
The idea would be to force the engine down to idle via the DBW system when the brake light switch activates, REGARDLESS of gas pedal position. If the engine didn't drop to idle immediately then a failsafe measure of EFI fuel cut might then be appropreate.
"..old feature.. ignition key.."
"Old" being the operative term, soon to be obsolete as maybe a follow-on term.
"...Toyota cannot possibly be this stupid..."
NOBODY should have to practice, LEARN, how to shut the engine down via holding the PB down for a number of seconds. A simple twist PB function should have been included. Push to start, counter-clockwise twist to shut the engine down. Or even a separate STOP PB.
#261 of 266 Re: 2010 Avalon Recall(s)? [jaxs1]
Jan 16, 2010 (8:18 pm)
One can only imagine the condition of those transaxle clutches after so many shifts into drive with the engine operating at WOT....
#262 of 266 Re: Keep it as is [tfelton]
Jan 16, 2010 (8:22 pm)
"..gadget feature...I like best...pushbutton start..."
Just be sure and practice, just in case, using that same PB, holding it depressed, to STOP the engine.
Jan 27, 2010 (10:49 am)
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#264 of 266 Re: 2010 Avalon Recall(s)? [necro1234]
Feb 05, 2010 (8:51 am)
"Accelerator and Gas pedals … aren't they the same?
#265 of 266 Rear window visibility 2011 vs 2004 Avalon
Dec 31, 2012 (5:50 pm)
In Aug traded an '04 Avalon for a '11 Avalon. The '11 has a more sloped rear window with more glare and not as good a view thru the mirror. The backseat headrests even in the most retacted position hinder the rear view. I have not used the retractible sun shade as that is allso a bit of an obstacle. Since the back seat is seldom used, I have removed the two rear seat headrests, keep them in a bag on the rear floor to reinstall for rear seat passengers and reinstall for annual state inspection. Obviouly, liked the rear mirror visibility better in the '04
#266 of 266 Re: Rear window visibility 2011 vs 2004 Avalon [number4avalon]
Jan 02, 2013 (6:12 am)
I had an 03 than an 06 and yes that rear window isn't the best for seeing out of. You will get used to it. Except for front seat comfort the 05+ is a much better car than the 00-04.
Its a shame Toyota destroyed the Avalon with the 2013. They were great cars.