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16 messages,  Last post on Jun 10, 2008 at 6:22 PM

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#7 of 16 Re: forester AWD observations [paisan] by kurtamaxxxguy

Apr 18, 2008 (6:10 pm)

Replying to: paisan (Apr 18, 2008 5:53 pm)
abls? automatic brake lock system ?
 
Might next Outback dispense with its LSD's as well? Given VDC and VTC introductions, it seemed the Outback had redundant systems given it had VDC added on top of its drive system.

#8 of 16 Re: forester AWD observations [kurtamaxxxguy] by paisan

Apr 18, 2008 (6:22 pm)

Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Apr 18, 2008 6:10 pm)
ABLS is Anti-lock Brake Limited Slip, which uses the abs to shift power left and right on an axle.
 
I fully expect to see the viscous LSD disappear on the OB and Legacies in 2010. You'll see VDC across the board and mechanical LSDs in the STi and Spec B or whatever the "performance" edition of the Legacy is.
 
-mike

#9 of 16 Re: forester AWD observations [paisan] by kurtamaxxxguy

Apr 18, 2008 (9:59 pm)

Replying to: paisan (Apr 18, 2008 6:22 pm)
Ah. Compared to my former Maxx, The disk brakes seem unusually beefy on the Forester. Hopefully they have the capability to handle that sort of additional use.

#10 of 16 Comparo winner by ateixeira

Apr 21, 2008 (1:25 pm)

Check out the terrain, they were definitely testing the AWD capabilities...
 
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=51689

#11 of 16 Re: Comparo winner [ateixeira] by kurtamaxxxguy

Apr 21, 2008 (10:16 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 21, 2008 1:25 pm)
A pity there were no video comparisons of AWD action.
Also interesting that the Aussie Subie has Bridgstones - USA ones (including mine) have the Yokohamas they did not like.

#12 of 16 other interesting AWD's by kurtamaxxxguy

Apr 30, 2008 (7:58 am)

The new Nissan GT-R, per a Jay Leno web video here at Edmunds, can only send 0 - 50% of its power to the front of the vehicle (it's heavilly biased towards RWD). However, its rear differential changes its limited slip characteristics so that when deaccelerating, it becomes more "open"; this is to help avoid oversteer.

#13 of 16 Re: other interesting AWD's [kurtamaxxxguy] by ateixeira

May 01, 2008 (12:43 pm)

Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Apr 30, 2008 7:58 am)
So they made it less fun, then.

#14 of 16 Re: forester AWD observations [paisan] by epgolfs

Jun 10, 2008 (12:03 pm)

Replying to: paisan (Apr 18, 2008 6:22 pm)
Huh????
 
Are you referring to VTD? I know you're a host & all, but - I've never once seen Subaru use "ABLS" in ANY of their nomenclature.
 
I agree with the rest of your comment. Considering it's about a $400 (retail) upgrade & that it's now standard in the Forester, it's likely that VDC will become standard throughout the line. Suby uses VTD in their higher-end / high torque engines/tranny configurations. (Yes, mechanical clutch pack & planetary gearset center differential.)

#15 of 16 Re: forester AWD observations [epgolfs] by ateixeira

Jun 10, 2008 (1:21 pm)

Replying to: epgolfs (Jun 10, 2008 12:03 pm)
it's likely that VDC will become standard throughout the line
 
I think that's right - the 09 Legacy and Outback also made it standard.

#16 of 16 Re: forester AWD observations [epgolfs] by paisan

Jun 10, 2008 (6:22 pm)

Replying to: epgolfs (Jun 10, 2008 12:03 pm)
ABLS- It's included with VDC, it uses the ABS system to stop a slipping wheel, ABLS is not the nomenclature used by Subaru, however that's what it is. Everyone has a version of it, MB uses it in all their cars in place of an LSD, etc.
 
-mike

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